32v version of HMV C23A
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This is an early 50's large Bakelite radio with the big flat/horizontal cream coloured plastic dial.
Does it have its own model designation? Anyone have a copy of the cct?
Parts of the 32v chassis of interest also.
Cheers Michael. TIA.
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The only schematic I have for C23A is mains power.
I have a schematic for C25A which is battery and has line-up: 1C7, 1M5, 1K7, 1K7, 1L5.
If that's it let me know and I'll send you the schematic and notes.
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I believe it could be a HMV model C27A. There is a console version, C47A that uses the same chassis. These are both 32 volt DC home lighting plant powered models.
The cabinet for the C27A is the same as the AC C23A & battery/vibrator C25A. The chassis is similar to the layout and design to the 807 powered R43A, R43B, R53A & R53B radiograms that was discussed here recently.
If it is indeed a C27A, the valve line-up should be 6AN7, 6N8, 6N8, 6N8 & 6V6 + a synchronous vibrator.
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Thankyou for the replies GTC and MonochromeTV.
It seems that it is for sure the HMV C27A. Anyone with further info/parts?
Thanks for the tips about the battery model and the similar chassis layout of the console model.
Regards Michael.
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I can't locate technical any info on those models, just this ad from July 1952:
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PDF service information received just then....thankyou very much ! Much more than I had hoped for.
Sending you an email re more farm radio information. Regards from Michael.
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Monchrome: out of interest, where did you find that data?
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Hi GTC,
I can't quite remember where I got the HMV C27A from, but I think it might of been part of the spoils of a deceased radio & TV servicemans estate.
The HMV and the recently found Philips 3852 service manual, along with many others, are not found in the AORSM manuals.
Thanks to your newspaper clipping we can now establish that there are at least 4 versions of that HMV stlye of bakelite table cabinet, which includes the C21A, C23A, C25A & C27A. (note the sequential odd numbers)
I haven't studied the circuit of the C27A yet, but having the 6AN7 & the 3 6N8's I think it might be fairly similar to the R43A, R43B, R53A & R53 807 radiogram circuit.
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Thanks. Sometimes I encounter AORSM indexing errors.
I often wonder why some radio models were covered by AORSM and not others. The whole AORSM and JR Manuals publishing process is a mystery to me, and I doubt there are any players left alive today to explain it.
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The whole AORSM and JR Manuals publishing process is a mystery to me, and I doubt there are any players left alive today to explain it.
I agree. It would never happen in somewhere like the motor industry - where the companies go out of their way to make their service manuals almost impossible to get. The usual "we're out of stock mate" or "that'll be $532.56 - cash or charge?" routine stops most people seeking manuals from reaching the acquisition stage. Too hard or simply too expensive.
It could be the case that the AORSM books succeeded because the manufacturers didn't want to be in the sideline business of publishing. Then again, some of the larger companies did publish certain books. AWA and Philips, as most of us know, published valve data books. AWA, via various subsidiaries, published text books on radio theory and practice.
Unless someone here either worked for the publisher of the AORSMs or knows someone who did then we may never know the real reason these books came into being. We do have someone to thank for it though - they are an invaluable resource.
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Hi Gents, I am new to this site and interested in HMV as I have a mains mantle radio the same as the ones in the advert on this thread but Model S23A circa 1950.
I am looking for a circuit diagram and any other info to restore this set.
Clive
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Clive
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Clive,
If you use Control Panel to unhide your email address, I'll send you the schematic and notes.
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Hi GTC, that would be fantastic................I have unhidden my email for you.
I have a KB BR40T to collect in a couple of months so I shall have a bit to do.
Many thanks.
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Clive
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Okay, sent.
Some of these scans are not the best quality, so you may have to zoom the PDF for clarity.
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