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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 10:28:05 PM on 14 June 2014.
Khaled's Gravatar
 Location: Adelaide, SA
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Hi everybody,
Can anyone help me identify this Radiogram ?

It comes with Garrard RC 110 record changer,

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 8:16:28 PM on 15 June 2014.
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Can you send a closer shot of the dial? That will help roughly date the set. On the dial underneath the South Australian stations there is a word that looks like "BEAN". Or could it be "BLAND"? Bland were a South Australian manufacturer of radio's going under the brand name of "Operatic." Another way to maybe narrow down its make is by the valve line-up.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 8:34:51 PM on 15 June 2014.
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Thanks monochrome, I will try to take a photo of the board.
There is a sticker on the board by Selex Decal Pty Ltd

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 9:23:46 PM on 15 June 2014.
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It would appear the "BEAM" radiogram was the house brand for "Bellchambers", radio & electrical retailers of 237 Victoria Square, Adelaide. I can't find any info or pictures of this one though. This would be another one of those generic radio's that retailers would put their own brand on. I'd say this one would date from the early 1950's.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 11:12:26 PM on 15 June 2014.
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Thanks Monochrome. This is very helpful.

I was expecting it to be from the 50's because of the early model of the Garrard 110. Very pleased that an expert confirmed it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 6:20:00 AM on 16 June 2014.
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Strange that a minor station such as 2WL was given such prominence. Probably just for appearance to balance the dial. Many clock makers incorrectly mark the 4 as IIII instead of IV for the same reason.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 7:59:13 AM on 16 June 2014.
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As has been mentioned, the valve line-up could be useful in identifying the chassis.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 8:31:48 AM on 16 June 2014.
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Thanks for the compliment, but I don't consider myself to be an expert by any means. One of my hobbies is to try and find out who made and sold generic radio sets such as yours. It is always good when someone such as yourself posts these unknown branded radio/radiograms here. It appears that South Australia had a lot of generic sets out there - more so than other states so it seems. The question is - who actually made them? As both GTC and myself have said, a valve line-up could be most helpful.

As to the Garrard 110 changer. They were in production between 1953 & 1956.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 9:16:32 AM on 16 June 2014.
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The other side of this console's genealogy is the cabinet - probably made by a local Adelaide cabinetmaker on contract to the retailer. The cabinet may well have separate maker's identification somewhere inside, possibly including dates, signatures of inspectors, etc.

I'd comment that this cabinet seems relatively tasteful, with solid frame and simple veneer pattern, compared to some of the bulbous monstrosities of the period.

Maven


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 7:01:42 PM on 16 June 2014.
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Sorry for the delay guys, I was having some lessons on french polish.

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There is a sticker on the board by Selex Decal Pty Ltd.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 7:37:50 PM on 16 June 2014.
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G'day Khaled,

I apologise for missing your e-mail from the other day - at the moment I am preparing to move house and haven't been as attentive to e-mails as I normally am, though it looks like you have your photos sorted out.

The Selex decal is attached to all vintage radios and televisions made between 1934 to the early 1970s. I am not sure what year they stopped being attached. Manufacturers attached them to provide evidence that royalty payments covering the manufacture of the set were paid to the ARTS&P which was a conglomerate of several leading radio manufacturers set up to receive patent royalties.

More on these decals here.


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Brad.

A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 8:42:21 PM on 16 June 2014.
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No worries Brad and thanks for the explanation. Moving is always a pain, good luck mate


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 9:25:40 PM on 16 June 2014.
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Sorry for the delay guys

Okay, so what types are those valves?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 9:26:37 PM on 16 June 2014.
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at the moment I am preparing to move house

Getting a bigger garage/workshop as a result?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 10:16:18 PM on 16 June 2014.
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I've seen these chassis' before, but for the life of me can't think where. But it is definitely the type used in generic sets. There is a model no., 544 (the 5 maybe indicating 5 valves) and a serial no., cant read properly, but looks like 43228. The valve line-up would almost certainly have to be: 6BE6, 6BA6 or 6AU6, 6AV6, 6AQ5 & 6X4.


 
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