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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 8:55:51 PM on 21 June 2011.
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Does anyone know of any table top units that are a vintage radio and record player in one? I know to some this will sound horrible, but I'm keen to make a replica (sort of anyway) and I want it to look as authentic as possible (without ruining an actual radio/record player).

It's for a HTPC case. I've seen a lot of this kind of thing around:

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/6b/1/AAAAC8sN0NYAAAAAAGsW-Q.jpg?v=1251144596000.

But I can't find any actual vintage units that look anything like the picture above. Any thoughts?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 9:44:44 PM on 23 June 2011.
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The term used was "tablegram".

There's a picture of a Kriesler (model 11-36?) on this site here:

http://vintage-radio.com.au/imgs/Krieslertablegram.jpg.

Here are some other models that you could try to find pics of:

Philips R116 (1947)
HMV 557 (1948)
Stromberg-Carlson (1948)
Healing 7 (1950)
AWA 535 (1951)
Hotpint M3 (1951)

IMO, tablegrams are not good looking units.


 
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The Kriesler one is probably the most popular and is one of the biggest bakelite mouldings of all time. In the last few months I've also aquired one made by STC.

Tablegrams, whilst not always attractive, probably served a purpose though - flat dwellers would have appreciated their portability in confined living quarters and perhaps they may have appealled to those without the bikkies for a floor model stereogram.

That Kriesler only plays 78s but they did release a later model with a four speed turntable.


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I found this picture of an HMV 111 on a record sleeve, which I believe dates from about 1939 or so.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/hmv111radiogram.jpg/.


 
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G'day, Djdover


http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/6b/1/AAAAC8sN0NYAAAAAAGsW-Q.jpg?v=1251144596000.

But I can't find any actual vintage units that look anything like the picture above. Any thoughts?


The unit in this picture is a modern repo, having FM, CD player and remote control.

Nice looking piece! Have a look at eBay item 260808268248 for a similar model

Cheers, Graham...


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 1:53:56 AM on 29 November 2011.
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Quote- There's a picture of a Kriesler (model 11-36?) on this site here:

http://vintage-radio.com.au/imgs/Krieslertablegram.jpg.

Actually, that model is the Kriesler 11-25, which dates from 1950 & 1951. Apparently there are 12 different variations of the 11-25, covering both the chassis' & turntables used.
The next model was the 11-30, which I believe was introduced sometime in 1952. This model is also fairly common, although not quite as common as the 11-25 from what I've seen.
I can only guess that fairly strong sales of the 11-30 were probably due to the addition of various 3 speed turntables capable of playing the newly introduced microgroove records.

Here's some links to photos of my 11-30.
Apart from the 1953 BSR GU-4 turntable (in my example), the only other big cosmetic difference is that the 11-30 now only had 4 control knobs under the dial.
Im not sure how long this model was available, and I'm not aware of a third model being made that used the same basic cabinet design. I guess by the time this model went out of production, the cabinet style had had it's day, & the public were ready for something a bit more fashionable.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/Kriesler1130.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/Kriesler11301953.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/Kriesler1130bsrgu4.jpg/


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 5:21:09 PM on 15 January 2012.
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Astor made an RK big heavy monster. I have one here in storage for a collector and I had one go back to Daylesford with Collaro a turntable that had plastic cancer & some butcher had been at the mechanicals (Oct).

I don't know whether it was sold, but the module was a total rebuild. every cap & resistor had to be replaced. So that part should not fail anytime soon.

I do have an AWA 570GA module BC/SW/ Mono (restored) no speakers has dial. Looking for a home.

Marc


 
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