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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 11:01:22 AM on 6 June 2018.
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 Location: Sydney, NSW
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I now have two of these beautiful beast from Germany, I have not attempted to work on these yet and before I do I was looking to see if anyone out there collected these and had some experience sourcing parts etc. my initial problem is getting help to rack down a model that seems to be totally invisible on the net. I have been to all the likely sities looking for a schematic for this model.
The model I have is a Blaupunkt Madeira Deluxe TYP 20910, and though I have found a few examples of radios with this name none of then are this particular model.
The closest on I have found has a model number (TYP) 2581. This has a similar 9 valve line up with the exception of one valve EBF 80, mine has instead a ECB 81 and from the data I have found to date these are not recommended substitutes. The other difference is mine has 3 speakers, the 2581 has four, otherwise these radios based on the pics look very similar.
I can not find any reference to my model at all, after hours of surfing the net.

Thanks to anyone out there who can guide me on this.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 8:24:39 PM on 6 June 2018.
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 GTC
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Have you tried entering the valve line-up into Radiomuseum's search?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 10:24:06 PM on 6 June 2018.
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Yes I have tried searching using the valves, I thnk only a limit of five valve can be entered into the search, but no sign of this model. The valve that seems unique to this radio is the EBC 81.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 10:55:03 PM on 6 June 2018.
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From the top of my head I think the EBC81 can be replaced with a 6BD7.

EBF80 I think is a 6N8.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 11:01:07 PM on 6 June 2018.
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 GTC
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I think only a limit of five valve can be entered into the search

There's no limit that I'm aware of. Let us know the line-up.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 7:40:54 AM on 7 June 2018.
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Hi GTC,
The line up is as follows, EF 89, ECH81, EF89, EBC81, ECC82, EL95,EL95, EZ 80, EM84.

Robbbert, I also checked if the other models schematics different valve , EBF80 was a possible substitute but came with same info as you.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 10:24:05 AM on 7 June 2018.
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 Location: Melbourne, VIC
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This Madeira is a export model made for countries with no LW or VHF (FM) bands. It was sold in Australia during 1962 & 1963 and that is probably why there is scant information on this model anywhere on the net. What little information there is comes from Australia.

I used to have one of these in very poor condition which ended being ratted for parts & I too couldn't find much information either.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 6:44:29 PM on 7 June 2018.
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 Location: Hill Top, NSW
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That would actually be a good radio if it could be made to work.

EF89 is plug-compatible with 6BX6, 6BY7, 6EH7 etc, but different specs. ECH81 is one of the best converters ever made.
ECC82 = 12AU7. EL95 (i think) = 6AQ5. EZ80 = 6V4.

I've worked on a few European radios, so the following comments are general to them. Your radios could be quite different, of course.

Being European, most of the small parts should still be working. The main problems I've encountered are shorted electros, and the push-button switches can go open-circuit. (assuming it has those switches - something like a few piano keys).

At least you've got a valve power supply - many European types have a solid-state 4-pin power rectifier diode.

The other issue is the choke and transformer arrangements can be novel to say the least, with multiple windings.

Often the mains connections at the back are quite bare and can be touched by incautious fingers. A mains fuse is quite common.

German radios in particular use symbols for the connections instead of words. Hopefully you know what they mean!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 10:20:17 PM on 8 June 2018.
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Thanks Robbbert,
I will keep those points in mind, but would like to get the schematic for this radio before I start tinkering with it.
My other Blaupunkt model F511 WP, not sure if you are familiar with this one, it had the schematic and I was able to get it going. It is a great sounding radio great volume and deep tone, the FM is going but not that great, may need alignment.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 10:29:36 AM on 9 June 2018.
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I'm not familiar with that particular model, but again I can offer general advice.

The FM tuner is generally in its own aluminium case, with its own variable capacitor and dial cord, and uses a ECC85 valve. Normally there will be holes for alignment, but without the manual, you won't know what hole does what. You can remove the cover to get better access. Then it's just a matter of working out which adjustment is for the sensitivity.

You can adjust it if you want (it's pretty easy), however I find that all these valve tuners are light years behind the performance of any solid state tuner, a general lack of sensitivity and selectivity, noticeable distortion, and many don't even have stereo.

Since I like to make changes from time to time, I'll often swap out the ECC85 for a 6ES8 (it plugs straight in), then readjust the sensitivity. It makes a noticeable improvement.

First thing to check though is that the frequency coverage is the same as ours. Most are, but some tuners only cover half the band.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 12:53:08 AM on 13 June 2018.
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 Location: Latham, ACT
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Das Radios Vintage German Radios from tubes to valves is on facebook. I am moderator if you wish to join.

Here is the contact details of the fellow I bought my Eumig off. He seems to have heaps of spares.
monodyne.gmx.de
Www.monodyn.com


 
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