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 Return to top of page · Post #: 46 · Written at 6:29:05 PM on 9 August 2024.
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I don’t intend making any of the material on Kevin Chants disc publicly available.

The schematic is such poor quality and virtually unreadable. I don’t think Kev would mind if viewed privately by experts who might be able to make some sense of it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 47 · Written at 4:40:42 AM on 10 August 2024.
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Photo uploaded to Post 44.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 48 · Written at 12:58:22 PM on 10 August 2024.
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I just checked with Kev and its ok to show the 552 Series schematic here.

Eclipse 552 Circuit Diagram


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 49 · Written at 8:11:39 PM on 10 August 2024.
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Document uploaded to Post 48.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 50 · Written at 8:32:19 AM on 11 August 2024.
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I see what you mean about unreadable.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 51 · Written at 8:33:35 AM on 11 August 2024.
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I don't know what you need more to view that - a sense of imagination or a sense of humour!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 52 · Written at 8:57:55 AM on 11 August 2024.
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Looks like a 'join the dots' puzzle!

Might give that a go.

Fred.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 53 · Written at 10:09:30 AM on 11 August 2024.
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Yes Fred, I was thinking along the same lines.

The bonus is that the valve line-up and IF for this schematic is already known.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 54 · Written at 10:11:44 AM on 11 August 2024.
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Please pass on my thanks to Kevin (and thanks MonochromeTV for chasing that up).

I am in the process of trying to enhance the image and trace anything obvious to see how close it appears to what the radio I have.

Much appreciation to all who have weighed in.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 55 · Written at 12:45:29 PM on 11 August 2024.
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More ignorance to display here...

I have begun tracing the image of the circuit out (I will email Brad an image of the current state of play to put up here) but am a little confused about the valve symbology used.

Looking at the diagram (and squinting really hard Smile ), the 1st valve (1C4) appears to have the screen and suppresor grids drawn as being internally connected - am I imagining this or in my ignorance (of which I have heaps), am I misinterpreting the valve diagram?

Why would the suppressor grid be at the same potential as the screen grid? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the suppressor grid? Or is the suppressor grid not drawn (or is it too feint) on the diagram and the screen grid drawn as 2 parts around the anode?

Eclipse 552 Circuit Diagram


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 56 · Written at 3:10:21 PM on 11 August 2024.
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Hi Jonk, the guy drawing the circuit may have been used to drawing tetrodes.
With no suppressor the screen grid just 'surrounds' the plate.
A pentode symbol may not have been in his mind yest,
Fred.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 57 · Written at 3:48:55 PM on 11 August 2024.
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In some cases I can (and have) darkened lines to make things clearer before converting to PDF, though in this case there first has to be ink on the original. If there winds up being another source for this circuit, please send it and I will update it here.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 58 · Written at 4:26:41 PM on 11 August 2024.
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Yes Fred is correct.

The screen grid surrounds the plate in this case. The suppressor grid, which is tied to one side of the filament, is not shown.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 59 · Written at 5:29:13 AM on 12 August 2024.
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Document uploaded to Post 55.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 60 · Written at 7:03:48 AM on 12 August 2024.
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Hi Brad, that enhancement helps.
I had a go tracing over the fainter original and got most of the circuit out except for the area around the vibrator.
I'll have another go on the enhancement.
This is not helping jonk that much bit I always like a challenge!
Fred.

Ok done!
I'll scan my effort and send to Brad.
I had to use my imagination in the power supply area.
I have not attempted to put in any values just tried to get the ciruit to a working model.
Fred.

Eclipse 552 Circuit Diagram


 
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