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 Location: Latham, ACTMember since 21 February 2015
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      Hi guys . I am currently looking for one of these magic eyes. Any ideas where I might get one please. 
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 Location: NSWMember since 10 June 2010
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      Depends what you want. Some are unobtainium. There are a variety on ebay. 
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 Location: Belrose, NSWMember since 31 December 2015
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      Sorry, somehow missed EM1 in the thread title. I have some European eyes; will have a look and see if there is an EM1; probably used though.
 
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 Location: Wangaratta, VICMember since 21 February 2009
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      6U5 needs -22V I think we need the other one with  -7V or -8V on grid 6E5 That would involve a change from "P" base to UX6. 
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 Location: Latham, ACTMember since 21 February 2015
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      I have actually found a NOS one. And I know it works as I have seen pictures of it being tested and the seller is very reputable. 
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      Have you decided to buy Tallar? 
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 Location: Latham, ACTMember since 21 February 2015
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      Yeah I have matey. He offered it a few days back but didn't hear from him till yesterday. Did you find one ? 
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      Got the box down, haven't gone through it yet; will let you know. 
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      Afraid the valves in question are EM4s. 
 The pattern you can expect of your new EM1 is shown here:
 
 http://www.magiceyetubes.com/patterns.htm
 
 The substitutions page says that exact substitutes for the EM1 are:
 4678, CV2942, ED78, ME6, ME6S, TK606, TV6, and U6-CAT
 
 Tuning indicators are a fascinating subject as can be seen in the link.
 The first indicators were meters and more cheaply made meter analogues. The first electronic indicator was the STC Tunograph:
 
 https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_tunograph.html
 
 The first of the recognisable eyes was the 6E5, by RCA in 1935.
 
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 Location: Belrose, NSWMember since 31 December 2015
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      The EM4 should still fit and work with a few simple changes. 
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      Can supply the EM4 if you like Tallar. Should be able to send a base too. 
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 Location: Belrose, NSWMember since 31 December 2015
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      When I checked, the base was the same. 8 pin side contact.
 I suspect you may need to link a couple of pins. If you decide to go that way I can work it out for you.
 
 AFAICS the EM4 can display two different variables using opposite beams rather than the cross-shaped eye of the EM1.
 
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 Location: Latham, ACTMember since 21 February 2015
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      I do have a New old stock one coming. Pretty stoked I was able to get one though. 
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