[Wanted] - Kriesler 11-99 volume knob
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Location: Hill Top, NSW
Member since 18 September 2015
Member #: 1801
Postcount: 2078
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Here's the info on the 3 11-99's in my collection.
Serial #4969
Date: none marked
Colour: Ivory
Power cord: 2 wire
Back: no groove
Rectifier: 6V4
ARTS&P : cyan AC075205
Serial #19039
Date: 26 AUG 1969
Colour: Chocolate
Power cord: 3 wire
Back: groove
Rectifier: 6V4
ARTS&P: cyan AB697937
Serial #46532
Date: 11 MAY 1974
Colour: Red
Power cord: 3 wire
Back: groove
Rectifier: solid state diode
ARTS&P: none
This radio has had the speaker replaced, but keeping the same transformer.
The schematic within shows the 6V4, looks like they never updated it when they switched to solid state.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Here's the updated serial number list with Robbert's sets listed:
Serial Numbers:
189 - 6 Aug 1965 on transformer
4969 - (date?), 6V4, no groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AC075205
16310 - approx Mar 1969 - 6V4 rectifier and caps marked 059 and 079, ARTS&P label AA 879187
17412 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier, wax caps marked xx6 and ARTS&P label AA 998629
19039 - 26 Aug 1969, 6V4, groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AB697937
20893 - 18 Nov 1969 on IF can - silicon diode rectifier
23428 - 27 April 1970 on power transformer, silicon diode rectifier
24787 - 4 Aug 1970, silicon diode rectifier
34968 - 24 Mar 1972
38406 - 19 July 1972
45967 - 6 Mar 1974
46532 - 11 May 1974, silicon diode rectifier, groove on back, no ARTS&P label
46591 - 25 Apr 1974
47210 - 16 June 1974
Note apparent anomaly in the dates between 6 Mar and 25 April:
45967 - 6 Mar 1974
46532 - 11 May 1974
46591 - 25 Apr 1974
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Location: Hill Top, NSW
Member since 18 September 2015
Member #: 1801
Postcount: 2078
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To explain the "groove", it is on the back cover, but at the bottom and is meant to hold the power cord as it exits the case. It looks like it was only intended for radios with a 3-wire power cord. There's a bit of bad design there: the power cord will naturally get twisted in its lifetime, and where it exits the case the plastic will cut through the grey outer sheath, exposing the wires inside.
The early radio with a 2-wire cord has a different back panel which has no hole for the cord, and therefore no groove. The cord comes out of the righthand underneath air slot instead.
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Location: Beechmont, QLD
Member since 10 April 2009
Member #: 465
Postcount: 109
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Hi all.
Sorry for coming late to this discussion, but I have two 11-99s.
Ser. No. = 11148, rectifier = 6V4, no discernible dates.
Ser. No. = 20741, rectifier = silicon, power transformer date = 13-11-69.
Cheers, Stuart
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Location: Naremburn, NSW
Member since 15 November 2005
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Sirwin, no apology needed.
There's an 11-99 on Ebay at the moment and I am tempted to buy it just to see what the manufacture date might be.
The discussions about this radio started on the US and UK forums have attracted some interest too.
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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...
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Location: Melbourne, VIC
Member since 20 September 2011
Member #: 1009
Postcount: 1208
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It wasn't just the 11-99 that survived into 1974.
I have a chassis for a Kriesler 11-133B radiogram. This is also a valve unit which is the same as an 11-98, but with a silicon rectifier instead of a 6V4.
My 11-133B, serial no. 35921, is dated 19/03/1974.
I also believe the AWA B15 was a valve mainstay throughout the 1960's and survived into the early 1970's.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Here's the updated serial number list with Stuart's sets listed:
Serial Numbers:
189 - 6 Aug 1965 on transformer
4969 - (date?), 6V4, no groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AC075205
11148 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier
16310 - approx Mar 1969 - 6V4 rectifier and caps marked 059 and 079, ARTS&P label AA 879187
17412 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier, wax caps marked xx6 and ARTS&P label AA 998629
19039 - 26 Aug 1969, 6V4, groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AB697937
20741 - 13 Nov 1969 on power transformer
20893 - 18 Nov 1969 on IF can - silicon diode rectifier
23428 - 27 April 1970 on power transformer, silicon diode rectifier
24787 - 4 Aug 1970, silicon diode rectifier
34968 - 24 Mar 1972
38406 - 19 July 1972
45967 - 6 Mar 1974
46532 - 11 May 1974, silicon diode rectifier, groove on back, no ARTS&P label (*)
46591 - 25 Apr 1974
47210 - 16 June 1974
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(*) Note apparent anomaly in the dates between 6 Mar and 25 April:
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Location: Clare, SA
Member since 27 March 2016
Member #: 1894
Postcount: 510
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Hi all, have three 11-99's as follows:
Ok, the cream one is:
Serial No. 10835, dated 30th May 1968, 6v4 rectifier. 2 wire mains cord, mix of mustard and paper caps. 30 and 40μF electro's
My wife's pinkish maroon (cream face) bedside one is:
Serial No. 10036, dated 24th Apr. 1968, these radio's I found the dates on the IF cans. 6v4, 2 wire, paper caps 20 and 25μF electro's
My pinkish Maroon (cream face) bedside one with black dial face is:
Serial No.47874, dated 2nd July 1974, (date on pwr trans), 3 wire cord, solid state rectifier (3 valves) mustard caps 20 and 25μF electro's.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Here's the updated serial number list with Jamie's sets listed:
Serial Numbers:
189 - 6 Aug 1965 on transformer
4969 - (date?), 6V4, no groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AC075205
10036 - 24 Apr 1968, 6v4 rectifier, dates on the IF cans. 6v4, 2 wire, paper caps 20 and 25μF electro's
10835 - 30 May 1968, 6v4 rectifier, 2 wire mains cord, mix of mustard and paper caps. 30 and 40μF electro's
11148 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier
16310 - approx Mar 1969 - 6V4 rectifier and caps marked 059 and 079, ARTS&P label AA 879187
17412 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier, wax caps marked xx6 and ARTS&P label AA 998629
19039 - 26 Aug 1969, 6V4, groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AB697937
20741 - 13 Nov 1969 on power transformer
20893 - 18 Nov 1969 on IF can - silicon diode rectifier
23428 - 27 April 1970 on power transformer, silicon diode rectifier
24787 - 4 Aug 1970, silicon diode rectifier
34968 - 24 Mar 1972
38406 - 19 July 1972
45967 - 6 Mar 1974
46532 - 11 May 1974, silicon diode rectifier, groove on back, no ARTS&P label (*)
46591 - 25 Apr 1974
47210 - 16 June 1974
47874 - 2nd July 1974, silicon diode rectifier, 3 wire cord with the "notch", black dial face, mustard caps 20 and 25μF electro's.
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(*) Note apparent anomaly in the dates between 6 Mar and 25 April:
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Location: Clare, SA
Member since 27 March 2016
Member #: 1894
Postcount: 510
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I've just acquired a new 11-99 and the date is hard to read, my wife and I are at odds, I believe it says 25 May 1976, but she thinks the 6 is a 3! I'll send some photos soon that show the date in the radio and you can see for yourselves!
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Well, if it's 1976 that is definitely the youngest one we have come across. What's the serial number?
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Location: Belrose, NSW
Member since 31 December 2015
Member #: 1844
Postcount: 2476
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It won't be 1976. The Kriesler factory in Cawarra Rd Caringbah was fully occupied making colour TVs in 1976. They did nothing else.
Had to be that way to keep up with the demand.
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Location: Clare, SA
Member since 27 March 2016
Member #: 1894
Postcount: 510
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Serial number is 42422, so 5th May 1973, Cream coloured like my 1968 ones, but with three ply mains cord and silicon rectifier.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Here's the updated serial number list with all of Jamie's sets (to date!) listed:
Serial Numbers:
189 - 6 Aug 1965 on transformer
4969 - (date?), 6V4, no groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AC075205
10036 - 24 Apr 1968, 6v4 rectifier, dates on the IF cans. 6v4, 2 wire, paper caps 20 and 25μF electro's
10835 - 30 May 1968, 6v4 rectifier, 2 wire mains cord, mix of mustard and paper caps. 30 and 40μF electro's
11148 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier
16310 - approx Mar 1969 - 6V4 rectifier and caps marked 059 and 079, ARTS&P label AA 879187
17412 - (date?), 6V4 rectifier, wax caps marked xx6 and ARTS&P label AA 998629
19039 - 26 Aug 1969, 6V4, groove on back, ARTS&P cyan AB697937
20741 - 13 Nov 1969 on power transformer
20893 - 18 Nov 1969 on IF can - silicon diode rectifier
23428 - 27 April 1970 on power transformer, silicon diode rectifier
24787 - 4 Aug 1970, silicon diode rectifier
34968 - 24 Mar 1972
38406 - 19 July 1972
42422 - 5 May 1973, silicon rectifier, 3 wire mains cord
45967 - 6 Mar 1974
46532 - 11 May 1974, silicon diode rectifier, groove on back, no ARTS&P label (*)
46591 - 25 Apr 1974
47210 - 16 June 1974
47874 - 2nd July 1974, silicon diode rectifier, 3 wire cord with the "notch", black dial face, mustard caps 20 and 25μF electro's.
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(*) Note apparent anomaly in the dates between 6 Mar and 25 April:
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
Member #: 823
Postcount: 6761
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Serial number is 42422, so 5th May 1973
Thanks for the confirmation. List updated above. Nice to now have an entry for 1973.
They we really cranking those sets out. Difference between serial numbers from May 1973 to May 1974 is 4,110. Still amazes me given the era.
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