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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 9:33:25 AM on 4 July 2018.
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I purchase this radio at the Melbourne HRSA Auction, along with 4 other wooden radio's. This one I have given to my Niece who is 15 and shown an interest in Vintage things, it was her birthday and I was staying with the family that weekend.

I will have some photos posted, the radio is in a fantastic condition, it have been recapped but not sure how long ago.

The valve line up is 80, 42, 6C6, 6D6 .
The only markings I could find to identify it is on the peephole dial it say "Victor" and the unusual speaker is labeled "Sonochorde" reproducer.
The 2 shinny chrome covered IF coils have stamped on them "Perry Coils Yonkers "
It has a 240V plug cable installed though poorly, with an Ironcore labeled power transformer. I am guessing this is a USA radio converted ? But not sure.
No other clues can be found as to the model and in relentless searching on the net, I have been unable to find the circuit or reference to this radio.
If anyone can help me find out any info at all on this radi I would be grateful, I was hoping to get a schematic for this Chasis before I attempt to see if I can get it to work and am only in Melb until Friday.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 1:33:20 PM on 4 July 2018.
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That line-up was fairly popular in the 1930s. Is it TRF or superhet? Some good photos may help. If it's American, then you may get it identified on Antique Radio Forums.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 2:30:30 PM on 4 July 2018.
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I have sent some photos to Brad, I believe it is a TFR from what my limited experience can tell. I have posted on the Facebook page Vintage Radio which seem to be mainly American members.
I will try and checkout some of the Antique Radio Forums, thanks GTC.

Victor Valve Radio
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 2:50:11 PM on 4 July 2018.
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Bah, I meant to type TRF (now fixed). There are lots of very knowledgeable members on the AR forums. Some good photos should elicit replies.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 3:55:30 PM on 4 July 2018.
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GTC, I know what you meant but, I used exactly the same acronym I have no excuse, not sure of your age, I am always getting letters and numbers in muddled order, not helpful when transcribing valve numbers and letters.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 4:31:38 PM on 4 July 2018.
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Easy to mistype TLAs, there are so many of them. Reminds me of the old joke about the dyslexic atheist's disbelief in dog. Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 11:27:32 PM on 4 July 2018.
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Photos uploaded to Post 3.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 12:57:56 AM on 5 July 2018.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 7:03:40 AM on 5 July 2018.
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Re the TRF, um, each gang connects to each coil, that's 2 tuned circuits.
If it was a autodyne/superhet there would be 4 coils aer,osc,if,if.
I can only see 2 tuned coils hooked to valves and tuning caps.
I cant see any IF coils or a 7 pin convertor. I only see 6 pin valves.
So what are the valve types? Probably 57 and 58's with 2A5 2 volt or 6C6, 6D6 with 42 output if 6 volt.
Its a two stage TRF with a grid leak detector to me.
Fred.
And then I read the first post! sorry its 6 volt and a TRF.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 8:21:26 AM on 5 July 2018.
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Thanks for you for your replies, the valve bases had valve numbers on them, the 6C6 and 6D6 are replacements .
It is 6V and 2 IF Coils Fred.
I have not been able to track down the model, I had some response from Americans on Antique Radio who believe the Radio was made here, using US components.

I did all the safety checks, and checked the power transformer, IF coils and voltages all seemed ok . Then with a 30W lamp in series I fired it up with all valves in place an it runs ok, with all the channels reasonably clear.

I will replace the power cord with a more original looking twisted cloth 3 core and secure to the Chassis.

It would be good to know the model and year and confirm where it was manufactured.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 8:47:27 AM on 5 July 2018.
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"Victor" is the house brand for Palings, music retailers of 338 George St, Sydney. Just another one of the multitudes of generic house branded radios sold by the various department stores & retailers.

According to Arthur Courtney's HRSA Australian brand names list, Victor radios were possibly manufactured by Airzone.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 9:54:16 AM on 5 July 2018.
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Hi Cap, I looked closer at the photos and drew a rough circuit diagram. Good photos by the way.

1/ the aerial wire hooks to one "IF" can, that's the aerial coil not an IF.
2/ each red wire from the gangs hooks to each "IF" coil, they are tuned broadcast grid circuits , NOT IF.
3/ if the cans were IF's, where the heck are the aerial and oscillator coils and where are the IF peaking trimmers?
4/ if it was a superhet, it has plain pentodes in the front end, so could only be an autodyne mixer.
5/ if it is an autodyne again where are the separate to IF, aerial coil, osc coils giving 4 in total?
6/ the plate of the first valve hooks to the second tuned circuit, that's a RF coupling coil, NOT an IF.


Answer it is an rf valve with two gang tuned circuits, then a detector/audio valve then a power valve.
That's called a TRF set and would be an adequate local station performer with a decent aerial.
That would be a nice set to rewire neatly, put in some decent twin lug tag strips to hold the parts securely.
Love the speaker, it all would clean up nicely, bit of paint on the rusty bits, nice buy all round.
Also love the cabinet it looks so impressive like it has at least 8 valves in there!.
Fred.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 10:02:05 PM on 5 July 2018.
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Hi Fred, great analysis, your brilliance never ceases to amaze me.

MonochromeTV interesting that Airzone may have manufactured this radio for Victor. I thought with the name Victor they were tied to RCA Victor in the US?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 11:42:55 PM on 5 July 2018.
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MonochromeTV interesting that Airzone may have manufactured this radio for Victor. I thought with the name Victor they were tied to RCA Victor in the US?

To complicate matters further, there was also an ARC Victor. There is an article on the restoration of one here.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
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