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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 1:46:46 PM on 31 January 2017.
Tallar Carl's avatar
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I have sent some photos . This is a tiny wooden radio with only 4 valves EL3NG, 6A8 ,6g8g and 5Y3GT it's very rough and I think it will be a challenge but hey I love em. Two of the photos show the reading I'm getting from the transformer so I would like some input on that .

The EL3NG is only 2mm from the roof of the case so I don't think it should be there.

There is no sign of a ARTS&P STICKER either.

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 5:32:33 PM on 31 January 2017.
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Pending photos, some candidates among the 4 valve sets with that line-up are:

HMV model 449 (1939)
HMV model 440 (1940)
HMV model 444 (1940)
HMV model 441 (1941)
HMV model 451 (1941)
HMV model 456 (1946)
Operatic model 36MA (1946)
Weldon model 411 (1949)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 7:18:46 PM on 31 January 2017.
Redxm's avatar
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Carl

Looking at the photos on FB it's quite possibly a home built / kit radio.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 9:21:55 PM on 31 January 2017.
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Now that I see the photos I'm also thinking kit.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 10:01:39 PM on 31 January 2017.
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To me the Philips valve is the odd one out.

Take a look at the cap 50-xxx is not an to me an Australian number. More like an American Philco or Zenith.

Check where the rest were made?

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 12:25:21 AM on 1 February 2017.
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They are actually all Philips Valves.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 12:26:49 AM on 1 February 2017.
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They are actually all Philips Valves.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 10:36:07 AM on 1 February 2017.
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I agree with a couple of previous posts that this is a homebrew or kit-set job.

A couple of observations. One, the broadcast stations marked on the dial are for stations opened up to 1941. The other is the short-wave frequencies 13 to 40 metres also marked on the dial.

Some more photos underneath the pan would be good to see if there is indeed a wave change switch. Also check some Radio & Hobbies 4 valve projects from the late 1930's & early 1940's, such as the "Little General", etc. Don't be too pedantic about the valve compliment as they can be chopped and changed.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 8:29:09 PM on 1 February 2017.
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I have sent photos of the under chassis and it's been identified as a EFCO

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 12:46:07 PM on 2 February 2017.
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EFCO is the dial mechanism maker, which almost certainly makes it a kit radio.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 3:19:56 PM on 2 February 2017.
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Transformer reading does not really mean anything.
Fire the chassis up with 100 watt lightbulb in series and all valves removed.
Check for primary leakage to deck first!
Measure volts.
The rust on the outside would make one think it's a write off, but you never know your luck.
JJ


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 9:24:40 PM on 2 February 2017.
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I would agree on some decent photo's of the inside of the pan & perhaps topside. Those resistors with the helmet type caps on them are early types.and often not reliable. The dial has 0-100 on BC band and a radio on the bench here a the same, so thirties is starting to look good.

Philips valves is unfortunately not a definitive answer. Philips made all sorts of Valves so the numbers are important. Philips own valves for RF had a metalised coating. If you have something like 6D6 we know when it was first released, so a set with one of them has to be after the release not before.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 1:34:01 PM on 3 February 2017.
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Hi Taller, I was going to say that set will be a piece of cake to restore, I have seen worse things pulled out of a creek and put back in the showroom. Then I took my rose coloured glasses off put on the clear sighted ones and uh oh.................................! Perhaps I should call it a Challenge.
That will be a complete strip down to the bare chassis and restore/replace EVERY part one by one.
Cut the rust out of every piece of metal work kill the surfaces and plate/spray depending if you want to do a "fred" job or a 100 point resto.
You may just save the transformers by careful test, repair, bake and varnish.
The speaker looks like a REAL challenge. I think it needs a re-cone and re-coil and a re-frame!
Then there are all the tuning coils and the condenser and....................so on and so forth.
The one thing I would NOT do is power that power tranny up until it is removed from the chassis, leakage and volt checked with excitation current checked, then run for an hour open circuit with minimal temp rise then varnished and baked.
Yes I have "restored" a similar boat anchor condition radio have a look at the Yackandandra TRF (I cant spell that word) in the special projects a year ago or so, it had rust holes in it, rotted sockets and rat chewed windings after being found dumped in a yard. It can be done but get ready for a LOT of work. Go for it, what could possibly go wrong!
Fred Lever.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 3:50:07 PM on 3 February 2017.
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You may be able to salvage a lot of the wire if you are careful. Labeling & decent photos essential. Beware of what you use with Aluminium cleaning it. Note / photograph the orientation of the IF cans & valve sockets even if you put a dob of paint marker on their terminals.

The chassis I must agree looks like it needs swimming lessons in a molasses bath or similar.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 8:52:29 PM on 3 February 2017.
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Well after a good look at this baby I decided I am going to give it a go. I managed to find time to take this cabinet and my 1928 coffin cabinet to my cabinet maker friend and with the intention of getting them to make a new one for me but they said this will be easy. We will get it prepped for you so you can give it a polish. I would have thought this little cabinet was a write off but no its going to be returned to its former glory.
Fred Lever I have next to no wood working skills so I do not mind a little cheating LOL Smile


 
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