Breville radio model 46
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Location: Albany, WA
Member since 12 April 2015
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Hi, I just bought a Breville radio 46 and I need to restore it.
Could not power it up because it looks like a battery powered unit. There is no trace of ac input but it have 4 wires witch 2 of them has been fitted with battery clips. The other 2 have striped ends, don't know if there were clips on them previously. The 4 wires are all in one loomed.
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Cheers,
Gerrie.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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Is that a floor-standing console set?
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Location: Albany, WA
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Yes it is about 950mm x 550mm x 320mm.
round dial +- 100mm with 3 switches underneath the dial.
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Cheers,
Gerrie.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
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Okay, your chassis diagram showing the valve line-up concurs with the "Challenger 46" on Radiomuseum, although the cabinetry is slightly different from the photo there. Perhaps yours shows the difference between a "Challenger" and a plain "46".
"Power type and voltage: Storage and/or dry batteries: 135 & 2 & -4.5 Volt ".
Interesting to see that you have an example of the C battery in situ. Yours appears to be using -3 and -1.5 volts.
The 2 volt A battery would have been a wet cell type, requiring recharging (usually at a service station).
The B battery would probably have been 3 of these in series:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/52/05/8a52056e122b08f5f2ca24362d1a3173.jpg
There are battery eliminators available nowadays to run such sets from the mains.
Set looks to be in pretty reasonable condition for its age.
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Location: Albany, WA
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Where will I be able to source a battery eliminator with these voltages. Had a look on line but not able to find a psu with 135v output and how will I know how much amp age it will use on the different voltages.
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Cheers,
Gerrie.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
Member since 28 January 2011
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Some discussion here, but not sure if this guy is still in business (Marcc?):
https://vintage-radio.com.au/default.asp?f=1&th=189#830
Also, Tony Maher of the HRSA makes them (or used to):
tmaherdetection.com.au (03) 9800 4895 (evenings and weekends)
Or you could build your own, by modifying this one:
http://www.walkingitaly.com/radio/RADIOURL/RAD110/DA%20VEDERE/BATT_ELIM.HTM
Most current is demanded by the valve filaments, so the 2 volt supply needs to be adequate. IMO, any competent battery eliminator designer should have factored in the usual current demands for the range of battery radios.
Others who specialise in collection/restoration of battery powered radios may have other ideas/options/opinions.
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Location: Albany, WA
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Thanks GTC for all the help so far, much appreciated.
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Cheers,
Gerrie.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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You're very welcome. Happy to help wherever I can.
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Before powering there is a bit of work to be done. All electrolytic and wax paper caps will need changing & the resistors checked and replaced, if out of spec. Bad wire must also go.
I have not heard much of Harold Sheeran, Wodonga, but the adds have not ceased. Tony Maher has made a new generation of his kits, but I was informed of health issues, so pounce if you want.
I have used Sheeran's & a member of our Radio Club has gone out of his way to get several of Tony Maher's kits. Rodney Champness was working on one as well that may appear in "Radio Waves" when developed.
I would suggest that most of these will suit. At extra cost Sheeran was selling them assembled. On occasions, I will resort to making my own and am currently deciding if I will make one for the 1924 Gilfillan that I mentioned in another post here.
Marc
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