Welcome to Australia's only Vintage Radio and Television discussion forums. You are not logged in. Please log in below, apply for an account or retrieve your password.
Australian Vintage Radio Forums
  Home  ·  About Us  ·  Discussion Forums  ·  Glossary  ·  Outside Links  ·  Policies  ·  Services Directory  ·  Safety Warnings  ·  Tutorials

Tech Talk

Forum home - Go back to Tech talk

 Stromberg Carlson "ROYALE"
« Back · 1 · 2 · Next »
 Return to top of page · Post #: 16 · Written at 22:26:29 on 25 August 2010.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

With 9 pins the probability of a 6AN7 is high, Its a Triode Hexode Mixer. It would be hard to identify from a photo.

Comparison with a known 6AN7 would be better.

I would predict 6AN7 converter, 6N8 RF AMP, One 6N8 as detector, one as phase splitter.

I have seen a radio like this in the last few years. I may have to look through some paper work, I know one 6N8 was a dud.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 17 · Written at 22:39:58 on 25 August 2010.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

My memory serves me well 71A31 and it went across the bench 21/12/2008.

As per flakes... I also have a circuit, know which collector has it and can likely get it to photograph if required.

This one had a nasty AGC problem, no prize for guessing the cause.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 18 · Written at 05:15:17 on 26 August 2010.
Flakes's avatar
 Location: Adelaide, SA
 Member since 27 February 2010
 Member #: 630
 Postcount: 392

I sent a copy of the diagram to Brad. You should get it. I hope it is what you are after!

Daniel


‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾
Valve radios, They just don't make them like they used to

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 19 · Written at 06:46:08 on 26 August 2010.
VK5PO's Gravatar
 Location: Lewiston, SA
 Member since 20 July 2010
 Member #: 703
 Postcount: 12

The tone and bass switches are 3 pos each...

two speakers in parrallel

No phono i/p

I reckon you fellows are on the money!

I used to have 100's of radios..yes 100's.... got some pictures here somewhere... ex - wife trashed a lot of them...
I still am saddened greatly to think about it..

I only have 2 now...the SC and my STC 418.

I have restored that fully...the timberwork is beautiful!
my email address is available by clicking on my info

Greatly appreciated gentlemen...Thanks

John


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 20 · Written at 11:19:45 on 26 August 2010.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

One can drool at some of the stuff that passes across my bench.

Four or so of them have been in Silicon Chip. and there are two very interesting sets 1920' & 1930's that bits are being gathered for. Both have a shot coupling transformer.

Some of the American ones with things like 18 valves & parts inside IF cans. These can really kill time, especially when the last persons workmanship was not good and it lists 65 capacitors and you know that the breed of Mica's in it are normally all duds.

If you get into strife with that set, at least (if it's that one) I know where to get one for comparision and at least have some familiarity with it.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 21 · Written at 21:02:38 on 26 August 2010.
VK5PO's Gravatar
 Location: Lewiston, SA
 Member since 20 July 2010
 Member #: 703
 Postcount: 12

Cheers Marc...


Got the c/dia now!
Thanks very much for your help!

do you have a valve placement diagram of this radio?
cheers

John


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 22 · Written at 22:28:09 on 26 August 2010.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

I can get, may take a couple of days.

Should be fairly easy 6AN7 will have wires going to the band switches & be close to the tuning gang. 5Y3 cannot be wrong.

I think the splitter is toward the front of the chassis in an awkward spot.

The 6M5 plates will head for the speaker transformer & their cathodes (pin 3) join & go to earth via a single 80 Ohm resistor.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 23 · Written at 21:48:06 on 27 August 2010.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

Info:-- Looking at the back.
6AN7 is on the left front next to the Gang.
5Y3 left of Middle back of chassis
6M5's together at the rear right.

I remembered that there was something odd about this set. the first 6N8 is reflexed and takes the audio off a cathode follower. Note also agc is taken off one diode plate.
Many manufacturers had stopped using reflexing by this time.

This is more of a paraphase push pull as the remaining 6N8's (triode connected) are feeding the 6M5's individually.

Be careful with the feedback wire from the secondary of the speaker transformer. If it's reversed the set can oscillate.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 24 · Written at 1:35:25 PM on 6 August 2011.
Moypoyka's Gravatar
 Location: Bondi Junction, NSW
 Member since 6 August 2011
 Member #: 973
 Postcount: 12

Hello. I'm new having discovered this web site when in trying to identify the radio model of my newly acquired Stromberg\Carlson Royale unit, I was directed to this thread.

I'm certain this is the same model, being # 71A31.
Can anyone supply me with a schematic or advise how I can get one?

Bill.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 25 · Written at 4:24:51 PM on 6 August 2011.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

If you unhide your email address in your profile, I'll send you the 71A31 schematic.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 26 · Written at 10:33:56 PM on 6 August 2011.
Moypoyka's Gravatar
 Location: Bondi Junction, NSW
 Member since 6 August 2011
 Member #: 973
 Postcount: 12

. GTC
Thank you. I've changed the settings now.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 27 · Written at 12:05:25 AM on 7 August 2011.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

Okay, schematic sent.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 28 · Written at 3:51:26 PM on 7 August 2011.
Moypoyka's Gravatar
 Location: Bondi Junction, NSW
 Member since 6 August 2011
 Member #: 973
 Postcount: 12

Received and much appreciated - thank you.
I believe this to be the superior and more complex of the three units I've bought so as I'm a beginner I'll start on the simpler model first.
However before I even lift a soldering iron or a pair of cutters there's plenty of homework to do first. I also need to set up a work area. I will report my progress on this thread with my S-C as I get there.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 29 · Written at 2:48:22 AM on 8 August 2011.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

Alternatively, you might like to add to this thread on current projects:

http://vintage-radio.com.au/default.asp?f=2&th=189


 
« Back · 1 · 2 · Next »
 You need to be a member to post comments on this forum.

Sign In

Username:
Password:
 Keep me logged in.
Do not tick box on a computer with public access.