Stromberg Carlson D9 Schematic
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Location: Toowoomba, QLD
Member since 21 February 2021
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Hi all,
Would anyone happen to have access to a schematic for a 1939 Stromberg Carlson D9?
Broadcast only, valve lineup: 6A8G,6U7G,6B6G,6V6G,5Y3G.
I have tried Radio Museum, Kevin Chants site etc with no luck. Radio Museum mentions "Stromberg Carlson Service Bulletin No. D9." but doesn't have a copy. The model "59" schematic looks like it might be close, but with a 6F6G in place of the 6V6G.
Thanks
Andrew
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Location: NSW
Member since 10 June 2010
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The circuit is in the 1939 AORSM as an AC BC receiver, but as you say has a 6F6, not 6V6. It is possible that someone has substituted a 6V6 which was designed to replace the 6F6, and can require some circuit mods which should be evident if the circuit is right for your radio. https://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=237914 has a discussion on this subject.
I will scan and ask Brad to post it here, but won't be able to scan until tomorrow.
The radio is mentioned here
http://www.hws.org.au/RadioHistory/manufacturers/Stromberg%20Carlson.htm
and here
https://hrsasa.asn.au/downloads/files/aa_radio-models.pdf
but neither place has a lineup. However both have it as an AC BC mantle which agrees with AORSM.
Good luck with the restoration.
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Location: Toowoomba, QLD
Member since 21 February 2021
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Hi STC830,
I'd have to assume the factory valve should be a 6V6 as that is stenciled on the chassis in the valve layout.
The radio museum site lists it as a 6F6, but no supporting doco.
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/stromberg_d9.html
The print has worn off the glass so I can't confirm what is currently fitted at a glance.
It is a Bakelite mantle using the same style case as a D39 (dual band) and D70 (transformerless) from what I can find. It also has an internal spiral loop antenna.
Thanks for your help.
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Location: Belrose, NSW
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By 1939 the 6V6G would have been the preferred bottle. The 6F6G is an octal-based 42 and by this stage was "not recommended for new designs"..
You can pick a 6F6 from a 6V6 by looking at the grid post structure on the micas, through the glass. The 6F6 will have 3 normal spiral grids, the suppressor (the one closest to the anode) will be the same as the other two. The 6V6 looks quite different, it has a pair of sheet metal wings for the suppressor - you can spot these poking through the mica.
A 6V6 can always be plugged into a socket wired for a 6V6 and it will work safely, possibly with reduced power output but not so you'd notice. Putting a 6F6 in a 6V6 socket may cause the 6F6 to run a bit hot as it will be under-biassed.
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Location: NSW
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Rereading your post today I think I might have been under the misapprehension that you want the 59 circuit which I have in the 1939 AORSM, as the closest approximation to the D9. I can still scan the 59 if it is wanted.
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Location: Melbourne, VIC
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I have the D9 service manual which I can scan if you like.
A quick comparison between the D9 & 59 show that the circuit is the same or similar. The differences appear to be in the chassis and layout.
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Location: Toowoomba, QLD
Member since 21 February 2021
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STC830 I did find the 59 schematic on Kevin Chants site, but thanks for the offer.
MonochromeTV if you were able to scan the D9 manual it would be much appreciated.
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Location: Toowoomba, QLD
Member since 21 February 2021
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Thanks MonochromeTV,
D9 service manual now available at https://www.kevinchant.com/uploads/7/1/0/8/7108231/stromberg_carlson_d9.pdf
Differences with the 59 circuit are around the speaker connector and tone capacitors, the 59 being a console.
I might have a late model D9, as the service manual still lists a 6F6 not 6V6.
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