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 Return to top of page · Post #: 16 · Written at 10:49:13 AM on 18 October 2014.
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The photo is mine, that's not the point though. It's that the site charges membership for access to schematics,
but wil receive them from the public with no benefit to the person who provided the schematics/photos.
For example, If I provided a bunch of schematics they need, I'd still need to be paying the same membership to access them.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 17 · Written at 10:51:23 AM on 18 October 2014.
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Sorry Brad, I clicked post after you got in. That may be correct, and I don't mind where the photos go, but the schematic was done by another person who's permission would be required. In any case I'm much more prepared to invest in the content of this forum (where any effort on my part would be required).

AWA Radiola 45E Console Valve Radio


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 18 · Written at 12:04:09 PM on 18 October 2014.
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I looked up my Kriesler 41-29 on Radiomuseum and they showed a picture of the wrong radio! The mistake was clearly made by the fact that the 41-29 shares the same PCB as the 41-27 and 41-28.

The person posting the info clearly didn't do their research and the guys doing the vetting clearly had no idea.

EDIT: I take back what I said about the incorrect picture of the 41-29. It has since I last looked has been changed to the correct one.

I also don't like the way they organise their brands, makes & models. Like the way they have the Fleetwood as a model of Philips. They are not models of Philips, they are re-badged Philips. It is like calling a Hotpoint a model of AWA or a BGE Genalex a model of Tasma.

This is why, along with paying a fee, I haven't joined Radiomuseum. But enough of this whinge.

I have here a PDF of the AWA 45E, though in poor condition as it was scanned from an old photocopy.

AWA Radiola 45E Circuit Diagram

Also a link to the Elektro Tanya site with a re-drawn circuit.

http://elektrotanya.com/awa_trf_45e_receiver_chassis_c79_1931_sch.pdf/download.html.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 19 · Written at 7:21:55 PM on 18 October 2014.
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Yes Art, I can see your point. It does seem unfair that contributors get less of a return on the time they spend than the owner of that site.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 20 · Written at 8:38:08 PM on 18 October 2014.
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As Brad said and as I understand it last time I read the information

The Idea is to keep the site running, so its said (and define that how you will).... but contribution may enable you to a be given Membership ...how they work out who does and doesn't deserve one ..... No idea.
(is that still current ?)

I really am of two minds on the idea of paid sites cause sure there are a lot of sites basically cashing in on what basically is now copyright free info yet they seem to have stacks of it in one place..and sites can and do cost money...anyway I see Arts point.

Ive stumbled across Elektro Tanya a few time in searches.

Bard It would be a good Idea but there are other resources out there for schematics and info like Kevin's
but a good photo database reference would be a good idea, thought a lot of work.

Still thought the more hosts of schematics manuals the better the chances of them being available...sites close and the info goes with them...schematic heaven seems to be one that disappears reappears or maybe this time has gone forever..haven't looked in awhile...there is was a mirror site thought I dont think it was fully a mirror per sai..thought that was for Fender Amps..still it is/was a great resource.

Maybe members only section ...to hopefully limit leaching of info and photos..there use to be a lot of that happening thought dont know about these days. (sites linking in I mean)

Anyway to me Photos are always good things to have for wiring layout and parts placement.

Just my 2 cents worth & thoughts people.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 21 · Written at 9:47:01 PM on 18 October 2014.
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It's not the site requiring subscription that makes me uncomfortable, and I will post pics here, and don't care what happens to them after that, but if it is to be run that way I'd be much more at ease if any material contribution from the public that was needed definitely resulted in some quantifiable discount against the subscription. Otherwise it's take-take.
I'm not actually sure my understanding of radio museum is correct... but I haven't seen otherwise... it looks like that is what Brad is suggesting happens then great.

Either way a pic has been sent, Copyright is mine, and I give it up to Public Domain.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 22 · Written at 10:26:15 PM on 18 October 2014.
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I was just quoting from memory what I read there on becoming a member (and that could be inaccurate too mate)..I was contemplating a paid subs awhile back

Yes agree Art, in that case it is a bit of a one sided affair and like I said... how do they decide who gets membership for contributions?..it seemed to me its like on a merit system, how much you do contribute you may get a membership for nix (need to clarify that it was a while back I read this)

I wouldn't say its not worth joining at all
but sure it does cost and I guess anyone has to weight up its worth to them for the price

its still a somewhat useful resource as is.... but is a bit carrot dangling too when you see a schematics you cant access or photos you cant enlarge much

So to me its seems to be more a forced money driven site then as a free resource run upon donations
which I can see arguments both ways..(how best to fund something)

This sites free but there is a Cost to Brad, if not so directly in money (and there would be really)
it is in a lot of his time to maintain it
& many thanks Brad Smile for doing so


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 23 · Written at 11:38:08 PM on 18 October 2014.
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A couple of people on here are members of Radiomuseum so they can comment on the membership rules details but, IIRC, if you're a "significant contributor", or whatever the term they use, membership is free.

In any case it's no big deal for me at all whether the photo is posted or not.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 24 · Written at 11:58:14 PM on 18 October 2014.
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"significant contributor"

Thanks GTC that puts it more to the point of what I was looking to say and I think it is words to that effect they have up somewhere..if not specifically that...as you say

I haven't ruled out joining myself


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 25 · Written at 12:25:11 AM on 21 October 2014.
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Photo uploaded here.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 26 · Written at 11:33:14 AM on 24 October 2014.
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The Radiola 45E has a similar circuit to my 1930 Radiola Forty Five model C73 which is a table model with an external loudspeaker. Here is a picture of my Radiola 45 as I found it in a second hand furniture shop. I found it and purchased it just in time as the shop owner was about to throw out the radio and install a modern MP3 player in the cabinet. I have not started restoration yet as I only recently found a suitable field coil dynamic speaker from an empty radio cabinet at the local recycle centre. The power supply will be a messy job to restore as the capacitors are sealed in wax.

AWA Radiola 45
AWA Radiola 45


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 27 · Written at 11:52:23 AM on 24 October 2014.
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A very nice radio.

In 2015 I am pondering on bucking the wider trend and invest more in some of the true classics like this. Earlier in the year I scored a United Distributors (Udisco) set of the late 1920s and a large Brown horn speaker to go with it. It now sits alongside an Astor Little Astor, which strangely enough is one of the largest of the coffin species in a physical sense, despite only having three valves. I'd be happy with up to ten more Aussie coffins and a speaker for each one - when funds permit.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 28 · Written at 12:03:42 PM on 24 October 2014.
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I'd be happy with up to ten more Aussie coffins and a speaker for each one - when funds permit.

I see coffin type radios passed in with no bids at HRSA (NSW) auctions. Dunno if they are Aussie or not, but it appears to me that there's a declining interest in them, so you may not need to spend much at all. (Of course, as always with such things, conditions apply.)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 29 · Written at 12:17:14 PM on 24 October 2014.
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Of course, as always with such things, conditions apply.

I think this has been the case for a long time and as you said, with some exceptions. Alongside the Udisco I purchased was an AWA Radiola C48 (it has the clover-shaped escutcheon) and it was going for $650.00. I didn't have the cash with me at the time so I just bought the Udisco and came back the following Saturday with the readies for the C48 and it was gone.

These days people vie for the coloured Bakelite sets because of the looks and I do too, to an extent. I still appreciate the 1920s timber sets though because of the historical aspect.

Many of the sets from this era will be from the US because there was no import embargo on radios at the time though there's plenty of Australian sets out there, though probably for the reason you identified - a lot of collectors just aren't interested in them.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 30 · Written at 5:24:19 PM on 24 October 2014.
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I think that's the same chassis yes... funny those bands that turn the three inter-stage tuners, I can't believe it doesn't become misaligned and go haywire.


 
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