Welcome to Australia's only Vintage Radio and Television discussion forums. You are not logged in. Please log in below, apply for an account or retrieve your password.
Australian Vintage Radio Forums
  Home  ·  About Us  ·  Discussion Forums  ·  Glossary  ·  Outside Links  ·  Policies  ·  Services Directory  ·  Safety Warnings  ·  Tutorials

Workshops, Tools and Test Equipment

Forum home - Go back to Workshops, Tools and Test Equipment

 It's' Test equipment & workshop equipment... But
« Back · 1 · Next »
 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 9:56:12 PM on 30 March 2018.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

Albeit one fixes a lot of Radios; It's not always a radio with valves in it, that wanders in. This (photo coming) was extracted from 15 thou of motor mower gunk. It might be of Historical interest? but is in fact "Garagenalia".

What we have is a "Magneto Coil & Condenser checker".

"Auto Lab" Industries P/L Sydney Model 196AC. The AC would imply mains, as apposed to a 6V DC Vesta car coil (only) tester I have here.

Similar to the VESTA it has a 6V Vibrator to work as the points. The Vesta uses a synchronous one, with half as the points & half for the PSU.

Apparently it was "Dad's" & son (who continued the business) found it & had more sense than to plug it in. It had been worked on before, but would not calibrate on the condenser side. Two caps looked non original, but tested OK, the third was paper: Instant alarm bells. It tested 40Meg: There is no place for a cap like that in test equipment especially when on a 6V6 (which I think is Triode wired) that is driving the meter.

Paperwork for it...... Not yet found, if it in fact still exists?

Magneto Coil Checker


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 9:37:39 PM on 31 March 2018.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

I note a 2009 reference to one in 2009 on one site: They could not calibrate it. Because of issues with this and other instruments at that workshop, I have made up a "Tagboard" for this instrument with two caps in its range and some resistances from short to 10K. This will allow rough checking of it, another similar machine & the ohmmeters.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 10:47:51 PM on 31 March 2018.
Brad's avatar
 Administrator
 Location: Naremburn, NSW
 Member since 15 November 2005
 Member #: 1
 Postcount: 7301

Photo uploaded.


‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾
A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 10:04:27 AM on 1 April 2018.
Gandhn's Gravatar
 Location: Cameron Park, NSW
 Member since 5 November 2010
 Member #: 770
 Postcount: 388

This is a blast from my past!!
AutoLab was one of the George Sample group of companies and was located at 364 Eastern Valley Way in Chatswood NSW. When I left the Army in 1961, (after 4 years apprenticeship plus another 5 years service), I joined what became Sample Electronics as their second employee in Sydney and we shared a tiny office in the AutoLab factory.
I recall one of my first jobs was retuning TV wobbulators that had been sold to customers such as Kriesler, Stromberg Carlson etc., following the change of the channel frequencies. I became very adept using a grid dip oscillator and this job launched my lifetime in the test and measurement field.
Harold


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 11:54:29 AM on 1 April 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
 Member since 31 December 2015
 Member #: 1844
 Postcount: 2371

Not far from AWA Redifusion and Weston Electronics. It was quite an innovative little area, all gone now though.

I could have used that magneto coil tester yesterday! Trying to find why the mower stops after a few seconds running. Killed my 20 year old DVM! The replacement I bought at Aldi a few months back (why wouldn't you have a spare at that price!) is much better anyway.

It is the coil that's breaking down. Hopefully I'll pick up a replacement tomorrow before the grass grows too much longer. A web search tells me it's a very common type.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 10:57:09 PM on 1 April 2018.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

Not far from AWA Redifusion and Weston Electronics.

Add to that Ferguson Transformers.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 6:28:11 PM on 2 April 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
 Member since 31 December 2015
 Member #: 1844
 Postcount: 2371

No, they were in Chatswood. Not far away, granted. Particularly if you walked along the creek.....


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 9:10:56 PM on 2 April 2018.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
 Member since 21 February 2009
 Member #: 438
 Postcount: 5254

One of the greatest causes of "fails to start" or "runs briefly", in garden equipment around here is "The Mud Wasps". These are like some Australian workers & will seal up holes rather than built the whole nest. So the enterprising little darlings build on radiators, under dash boards, inside open cage motors, a myriad of other places, and mufflers & fins on small equipment are quite popular.

Two mower places here have testers for coils: I know this as I have repaired them. So they should be able to test them. Some older B&S engines have capacitors & I had one here fail recently. The more modern Imrie 3000 can test the modern types as it has a coil that emulates the magnet on a flywheel.

The capacitor tester is spot on with this, but it has an ESR function & that and another ESR meter I have do not agree. The open circuit however, does go exactly to where it should?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 9:11:58 PM on 2 April 2018.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

No, they were in Chatswood

???

As per Harold's post: the George Sample group of companies and was located at 364 Eastern Valley Way in Chatswood

364 Eastern Valley Way Chatswood to 331 High St Chastwood = 650 metres. Went there numerous times myself.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 9:26:42 AM on 3 April 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
 Member since 31 December 2015
 Member #: 1844
 Postcount: 2371

So are you saying that Ferguson Transformers was part of the Sample group and they moved from Eastern Valley Way to High st Chatswood?

I only ever knew Ferguson to be in Chatswood (we used to buy transformers from them) but then my time in this area only goes back to around 1975.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 3:00:44 PM on 3 April 2018.
GTC's avatar
 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
 Member since 28 January 2011
 Member #: 823
 Postcount: 6687

No, I was responding to "It was quite an innovative little area" i.e. that part of Chatswood.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 3:04:33 PM on 25 October 2022.
RickG's Gravatar
 Location: Ascot Vale, VIC
 Member since 25 October 2022
 Member #: 2521
 Postcount: 2

Hi Marcc, I have recently bought one of these 196 AC coil and condenser testers, because I renovate motorcycles from the 1950s - and they all get their sparks from magnetos. I hope to receive the operating instructions in a week or so, and I am willing to share these with you. I am led to believe that the condenser tester part of my machine has been blown up (probably by a previous in-experienced user). I see that you have made up a tagboard for the condenser checker. Do you have a wiring diagram for the machine? Even something you have sketched yourself? I would like to get mine up and running to be able to test magnetos.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 5:17:00 PM on 9 November 2022.
RickG's Gravatar
 Location: Ascot Vale, VIC
 Member since 25 October 2022
 Member #: 2521
 Postcount: 2

Hi Marcc, I now have a copy of the user manual. If you would like a copy, email me at rickgard.bigpond.com.


 
« Back · 1 · Next »
 You need to be a member to post comments on this forum.

Sign In

Username:
Password:
 Keep me logged in.
Do not tick box on a computer with public access.