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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 9:35:19 AM on 28 May 2014.
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This conversation is continued from here.

Then today a lift, helping someone that can't walk properly two shoot past us but seen us heading for the lift didnt bother holding it...just pressed the close door button.

Off topic but worthy of a discussion - I live around the corner from Top Ryde Shopping Centre and the new building has two pedestrian bridges over Devlin Street which would have cost millions. At each end of both bridges are lifts, I assume so that seniors and the disabled can access the shops without having to climb the stairs.

What grates me is the sheer number of people who hog the lifts, particularly when they are going down and not holding any items apart from handbags, etc. Some of these people would be amongst those who waste money on gym memberships and all those useless gimmicky machines to crunch abs and work their guns and traps, etc.

In my view, people who are able should be using the stairs and the lifts should be for those who simply cannot use the stairs. It goes to Joe Hockey's comment about the age of entitlement and I suppose this reflects the selfishness that exists in the community. The same applies to lifts at railway stations. Dozens of able-bodied people cramming into lifts whilst someone in a wheelchair has to wait for these bums to finish their free ride. Yet there are stairs and in many cases escalators close by.

Some of the more-abused facilities should be off-limits to able bodied people, ie: lifts at a railway station should be enabled only by a pensioner's Opal card or a smartcard equivalent to the MLAK key used to keep disabled toilets locked. This would save energy, reduce vandalism and keep accessibility for those who genuinely need it.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 10:19:58 AM on 28 May 2014.
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It has very much become the "ME" generation. With, drugs mobile phones texting etc. the ability for face to face communication is being lost & we do not seem to teach common courtesy (or sense) anymore.

Einstein said we would create a generation of Morons & I think we are well on the way to achieving it.

This seems to have reverted to the original page not discussion?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 12:52:02 PM on 28 May 2014.
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This seems to have reverted to the original page not discussion?

Nup, it's in the right place. Smile

Don't even get me started on mobile phone use and the nanny state responses to idiots who walk out onto the road whilst reading their fanmail. George Street has become something of a killing field recently with phone users literally walking under buses and cyclists disobeying the rules of the road simply because they know they can usually get away with it.

The Government's response is to drop CBD speed limits from 50 to 40. My way of self preservation is to keep my phone in my pocket whilst I am on my feet. An 11 tonne route bus will still squash you regardless of the speed it is moving at.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 9:56:33 AM on 29 May 2014.
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The irony is that climbing stairs is generally recommended as one of the most effective forms of regular exercise for heart, muscle, bone, cartilage and general circulation including brain function!

Maybe someone will start a class action suing organisations that provide unnecessary lift access, for causing irreparable damage to public health. But shopping mall owners just want to make it as easy as possible for lazy customers to get into the mall. They would like to install conveyor belts so you could just roll out of your car, get ferried around the counters and cash-registers, then dumped back in the car to drive home and flop in front of the PayTV again for more high-pressure advertising. We consumers are being farmed, and they call it freedom.

Restricting lift access to those who need it makes social sense, but not commercial sense. Somebody has to choose which sense to apply. We are supposed to elect people to make those decisions, but few of them seem to have the guts these days.

Maven


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 1:23:27 AM on 2 June 2014.
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Thanks Brad, it was a bit off topic I know...but I feel a very valid point too

I usually dont use them unless its a more direct route to were I need to be like bus train times here is very very close and in the time to use the other ways you can miss a bus then I will use them...but by the same token I will let old or disable people go first or even to the point of stepping out of the lift to let them in... thats when I do use them

On roads mate, Ive seen the driving reading news papers, eating breakfast ..yes I mean a bowl of cereal as they drive in peak hour traffic...Generally speaking ..you think phones are a problem...mate the tip of the ice berg

But yeah Sony walkmans idea has a lot to answer for in people getting squished...and no I dont blame sony or any other company but the stupidity of using them while walking riding etc in traffic these days you need to be really aware of whats happening around you

What erks me even more now days is the way people huddle right in front of the door and literally will barge past you to get on the train (looking for a seat is why) while your trying to get off.. no curtsy at all anymore.... god help you if you have to use a walker and trying to get that off before you... the dirty looks you'll get for upsetting their game plan to be first come for a seat..

I am only talking of this getting exponentially worse in the last 10 or so years..
Sydney is great for this now Sad

Still its not all bad, there are some that will help and go out of there way to do so and well that is refreshing to know curtsy isn't totally dead and buried Smile

Marc
Seems I should correct that a little too as it across a few generations it seems these days of the "ME"

Agree too
"Einstein said we would create a generation of Morons & I think we are well on the way to achieving it." Yep

Maven
Shopping Malls like Mcdonald's drive through's ROFL
watch out Maven and maybe you better patent that Idea

But yes valid points too in the world of consumerism & health...and I think thats really starting to show in the populace looking more and more like butter balls then human beings

Cheers Smile


 
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