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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 3:56:49 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Hi guys I am just wondering if anyone can tell me what this radio is as I am seeking the wireing schematic for it, In the hope of restoring it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IAs9VCkxN0.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWvptWTIeg.

Thanks in advance.
James


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 4:33:03 PM on 25 February 2014.
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It could help in identification if you let us know what the valve line-up is (i.e. what valve types are in it).

If you need to pull the valves, be careful to do that by the base not the glass envelope. Also be careful about pulling the valve cap connectors as oxidation can cause the cap to separate from the envelope.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 4:50:00 PM on 25 February 2014.
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There's one similar for bids on Ebay at the moment.

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx....

I cannot quite make out the branding which is evident at the bottom of the dial escutcheon but believe it may be Reliance.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 5:06:23 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Hi GTC..

The tubes has lost most of their markings that was on the glass. The cap on two of them have already come off

The ones next to the transformer have;
42 with six pin and the other the other the print is missing has four pins.

The other have;
75 with 6 pins
Unknown with 6 pins
6A7 with 7 pins

Most are branded Radiotron and one with Phillips


James


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 5:15:51 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Thanks Brad,

Looks worse than mine Sad


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 5:33:12 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Going by what you have, I'm guessing the line-up is:

80 (Rectifier, 4 pins)

6A7 (Heptode, 7 pins)

6D6 (Pentode, 6 pins)

75 (Duo-diode-triode, 6 pins)

42 (Pentode, 6 pins)

... which was a popular line-up for many brands and models in the 1936-38 period.

Brad may be on the money with "Reliance" but I don't have data on that.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 6:13:29 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Thanks for all the help so far, The one Brad pointed out is similar yes but a few differences to the one I have.

Mine has rounded edges on the top and the grain pattern is not the same. When you look at the front it looks like it has the letter W in the pattern. The design seems to remind me of a HMV.

The only writing I found was on the plastic dial faceplate which has "New Standard Radio" written on the bottom. So far that means nothing to me.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 6:32:33 PM on 25 February 2014.
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The one Adam pointed out

I think you mean Brad. Smile

When you look at the front it looks like it has the letter W in the pattern

Weldon?



 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 6:41:21 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Yes I did mean Brad oops, I fixed that thanks Smile

I think you are right with the tube layout that will be a great help Smile

How hard is it to get those mentioned tubes?
I will be glad to find out what model this is in the hope of finding a wiring diagram.

Weldon? I am not sure to be honest I am a newbie to these old radios.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 6:44:53 PM on 25 February 2014.
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The valves are available but, as I mentioned, that was a very popular line-up so identifying the actual model chassis is the real challenge.

It might help if you could take a well-lit and sharp focus photo of the name that you think includes a W and post it here. You can send photos to Brad (See point #6 in the posting tips above the posting text box.)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 7:50:03 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Valves with caps off can often be repaired if they test good.

Very common valve arrangement I just sorted out an STC with that line up. If its a "Weldon", they used that combination in a lot of sets.

They had numbers like 2/38 which may be stamped into the chassis ARTS &P label?

Patent numbers on the speaker can be an age clue.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 8:27:56 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Thanks for all the replies guys Grin

I posted videos of the unit on YouTube that sort of shows the pattern that looks to me like a W on the front but I doubt it would mean it is the brand name..

I would have to take the console outside to take good photos of it, will be a pain to do as I live on the third floor here, but will do in the next few days.

I have not found anything stamped on the chassis (Blue painted chassis), The speaker is an AMPLION Q25 2500 ohms.
On one of the tubes the wire for the cap is snapped off from the top of the tube nothing to work with. So I assume that one would need to be replaced.

The chassis top surface is rather rusty so will need a clean, would there be anything stamped on the top?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 8:48:36 PM on 25 February 2014.
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Yes, I've looked at the videos but I didn't see any "W" but then I find that hand held videos jump around too much for such detail. A good sharp, still photo is more useful for me.

No need to take outside. Just light the subject well and make sure it's in focus.

Field coil of 2500 ohms could make Weldon a contender.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 9:24:56 PM on 25 February 2014.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 9:34:25 PM on 25 February 2014.
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That's a good photo, but I'm still not seeing any "W". Is it on the dial escutcheon like the one that Brad linked to?

Otherwise, if it's on the dial scale itself, then I'm not able to see it through the "foggy" dial glass.


 
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