I'll bet one of 5G's dirty little secrets to make it work is boosting power at cell sites (and using many more sites)(we know UHF TV needs 10-times the power of VHF, so imagine ~20Ghz?)

Well, 5G is using the spectrum previously used by UHF TV - TV is now all in Band 3.

Anything some people don't understand, they will usually be frightened of. But consider this:

The transmitter at the mobile tower is like a whole swag of mobile phones - they each radiate a few milliwatts. There is NO POINT in them being more powerful, what would be the point of one-way communication?

These nutters need to be told that having a phone / 5G tower near you (if you use a mobile) actually REDUCES the radiation you get from your own phone (which is much closer to you), because the phone throttles its power back by negotiation with the base station. And so your net radiation dose (already miniscule) is further reduced. It's about 1000 times more dangerous to walk outside on a sunny day!

Now, TV transmitters are what I do worry about. ERPs of megawatts, rather than the milliwatts used by phone bases. Yet no-one has ever said anything about these monsters.

If you call 3.56Ghz UHF then 5G will be using the UHF band but according to Telstra they will be using 3.5 to 3.6Ghz as per this press release below.

The initial radio frequencies that will be used for 5G in Australia are 3.5GHz and 3.6GHz which are in the existing mobile band. In future years radio frequencies in the mmWave band at 26-28GHz are expected to be used for 5G in Australia.
5G and EME - Telstra

https://www.telstra.com.au/consumer-advice/eme/5g-and-eme

I personally are uncomfortable having anything at that frequency right up against my head and have made the decision NOT to bother with a 5G phone.
A member of our family had a massive brain tumour on her LHS of the head and we suspect that it was caused by her almost constant use of mobile phone as part of her job. This was only the 3G band.
Nobody in Perth would operate but Charlie Teo in Sydney DID take it on and got almost all the tumour out but the little bit remaining ultimately took her out almost 5 years after being operated on at age 30.
Teo suggested that the type of tumour would have been caused by electromagnetic radiation given its location and the style of growth etc.

Only one case but I wonder and her 3 kids watched their mother die a rather uncomfortable death in the end.

Maybe or maybe not caused by that over use on her part but in my earlier days working in Telecom microwave sites the Occ Health mob had us all checked every 2 years for possible eye damage from any wave guide leakage etc.

It is hard to say what is at fault when it comes to health issues. I don't discount it completely, nor do I have any hard evidence that suggests that mobile phones are a cause of problems. To be honest, I think that there is an item out there that has killed and maimed more people than radio waves from mobile phones and that is lightweight headphones which people use to listen to music stored on their phones whilst walking aimlessly down the street.

When I am in town, walking down George Street after checking my GPO box it amazes me that more people don't end up in trouble because they walk for more than 100 metres without looking up. When trams start rolling down George Street in around six months time there are going to be some problems with this because the phone users (read: zombies) have grown used to there being no vehicular traffic in the area for the last few years and the last tram that travelled down George Street was some 60 years ago. So people are just going to have to get used to the idea that mobile phones belong in pockets when people are on the move or they will get sliced up like devon.

One thing that Ian mentioned is certainly correct. Because of the need by manufacturers to make their batteries last as long as possible, phones are set up to run on the smallest amount of power needed to maintain a connection. If you are close to a tower the phone will use minimum power. If you are 50km away or there is simply no reception, the phone will ramp up to the full legal output to try and locate a base station and your battery life will plummet in a big way, requiring a recharge from full after around 24 hours.

My phone is a Nokia 1320 running Windows 8.1. After more than five years I can still get around a week on a single charge as the building I work in has a DAS installed - which is basically a flea-power mobile phone tower inside the building with an antenna every 20m or so. that does the battery a big favour through the workday. I get a maximum of two days out in the wilderness when camping.

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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

Quote: "I personally are uncomfortable having anything at that frequency right up against my head"

"ANA..recommend..a hands free device to enable separation of the device from the head"(wiki/vestibular_schwannoma)

QUOTE: The locals have been protesting in my area about a 5g tower being built,

Your handheld at your ear will irradiate you way more than a cell tower ever would. Many people don't get that... And at higher frequencies, it's likely the radiation won't go that deep into you head. "Skin effect", like the skin effect you get with wire at RF frequencies. Your skin and skull would take it before it gets to the brain.... And if you have a thick skull....

The point that Ian & Brad made about the mobile system ramping up or down the power levels on both ends is well known and in our relative's case she was working in semi rural areas and most likely in many cases would have been in low received signal zones so her mobile would have been running at MAX output to maintain contact.
So she in most cases would have been exposing her head to the highest possible power levels from her mobile AND she was a heavy user always complaining that the battery did not last long and having to constantly recharge in her car as she drove.
In her case it was only 3G signal which is much lower than the proposed 5G network frequencies.

The received levels at the 4G mobile towers is very low...in the order of -120dB I am told by some Telstra workers who were complaining that our local community radio FM transmitter running at 200W ERP on 102.5MHz was interfering with their 4G network.

We are co-located with 3 mobile carriers and Telstra are working on the band of 715 to 720MHz and the SEVENTH Harmonic of our frequency is 717.50 MHz. Checking both of our transmitters running into a dummy load looking for that 717.5 sprog the only test instrument we could find measured as low as -90dB and the specs for FM transmitters are that the harmonics are to be lower than -65 dB.
Nothing could be seen on our gear but Telstra was still seeing it upsetting the 4G stuff and what the 717.5 sprog was doing was making the base station throttle back their TX output as their receivers were seeing that harmonic at -100 dB and getting the wrong info.

A 50dB notch filter centred on 717.5 was sourced and inserted into the feed line and Telstra reported that the interfering signal only dropped by 20dB...we are still scratching our heads..Maybe we need a filter with a wider notch.

Apple still don't have a '5G' phone yet (what's going on with that?) Meanwhile there's not a soul in Seoul without one; they are being literally saturated with Ghz radiation (any health effects down the road.)

My interpretation of Apple chart very different to universal ebullience; I see it descending to 92 (wonder what news/events could precipitate this?)

As far as I know, only Samsung and Huawei have released 5G phones. I'm in no hurry and my Windows 4G phone still works after five years in service. I am not sure what I will do once this phone flames out because I don't like the other two ecosystems but will most likely choose Android over IOS.

My phone has a few apps but I've never been an app collector so being on a dead ecosystem means little and as I don't often use the phone for web browsing, I don't have any need for 5G speed.

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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

Apple's key industrial designer Jony Ive just left, along with other star designer Marc Newson (I think they are forming a start-up company.)
Meanwhile Warren Buffet crows that his fund has acquired "$50B" Apple stock (fingers crossed that Apple maintains share repurchases?)
But Warren confesses he doesn't personally have (an Apple) smartphone (not into new gadgets)

I fix so I have been exposed to Radio waves since the 60's minimum: The only tumour I had that caused issues aged 16 I was born with.

Do remember that many of these jumping up & down and running around with placards (Like stop killing Ducks to make Duck tape) can be brainwashed into believing anything: What's more, it takes merely a light rinse.

Ah yes...……..20? years ago I remember a mob of people demonstrating violently about the upgrading of the electricity transmission supply aerial cables around Blacktown.
The TV people had egged them on and provided them with fluro tubes so they could stand under the 33gigavolt transmission towers.
The fluro tubes would glow and that demonstrated the evils of the electric companies about how they were radiating the poor workers with deadly..er..radiation just to supply electricity for the rich and the big bosses...(stick with me)….the funny thing was most of the mob were puffing on cigarettes and 1/2 of then were holding healthy babies plus one on the way. When the "spokesperson" (cigarette + baby+1onthe way) was asked by a local paper reporter if they were so concerned why don't they have the electricity cut off to their homes, the look of bewilderment was something to see.....no TV and hair dryer.....unthinkable!

Cut to another demo in Toongabbie when the first mobile repeater antennas appeared on local buildings. Obviously the work of the government and the big boss companies to ..um..radiate the brains of the poor, funny, its the SAME mob of downtrodden demo'ers, yes, ciggys in mouth, babies in arms (+ 1 on the way) and yes, also with wanker phones clapped to one ear. TV people egging them on, and local reporter asks spokesthing "if you are so worried maybe you should all hand your phones in to save yourself?" Look of horror from S-P, what! take my phone away!!!!! How can I tell my frens wot I'm doingk?

Cut to black.

Fred.