Emerson model 25A 1932
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Location: Latham, ACT
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I am fixing this little gem for a good friend and what a education. Valves are 36, 37, 38 and 39. Ac/dc set but not a hot chassis.
I recapped it but not working . All resistors ok except for the 305 ohm dropper resistor. I have ordered a 300 ohm 30 watt dropper resistor from rd components. This is another beaut little set and hoping to have it up and going soon.
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Interested to see the circuit. 36 is interesting as its a Tetrode. I would suspect that this is an Autodyne (Screen grid). Some of them can be cantankerous. same rules as for a superheterodyne if it is?
I normally use a Signal Generator & Oscilloscope as a signal tracer on them when they loose signal. Watch the plate detector, they are great for causing distortion especially with changed voltages & dodgy components. Occasionally they need adjustment. If 37 is the Plate detector is should be set to draw 0.2mA. The voltage a cross the cathode resistor will give you that figure (High impedance meter).
IF may be as low as 175kHz
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Location: Latham, ACT
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Marc I have sent the circuit as well will email it to you.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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Location: Oradell, US
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That is a hot chassis design. Though they used a capacitor to the chassis from the line to make it a little less dangerous.
I'm assuming you are using a 240 to 120V autotransformer to feed this set.
It looks like a TRF set. If the 205 ohm dropping resistor is open (bad) then the tube heaters will not be powered, and the set will not operate.
The resistor will "burn" a lot of power. A better way, if you can find a place to place it, would be a transformer to go from 240VAC to 24V secondary to feed the tube heaters, and a 120V secondary to provide the rectifier tube to make the B+. This would make the set "cold chassis".
Or use a 240V to 24V transformer to run the heaters, but the set is then "hot Chassis".
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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NBN was down for a large part of the day just got to the circuit. They are supposed to be upgrading? To what I don't know? The tower should have been put in the nearby citrus orchard.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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They are supposed to be upgrading? To what I don't know?
Smoke signals (CCITT approved, of course).
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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I have sent the RCA data for the four valves. The last time I dealt with a triode wired as a rectifier as the #37 is; was a #24 in a Lyric 70 suppling the somewhere around 50-80V to the grid of a #50.
#37 plate looks like it only handles around 7.5mA but the rest can draw up to 20mA.. However, the cathode resistors tell the story. Like 7mA for #38. If you persist with mains C1 & C3 should be line caps.
Thinking aloud: Heaters as they are 25.2V 300mA draw: 24V would suffice. NB the American mains voltage has increased from 110 to around 120V so the resistor may be too small Dropping from 110V to 6.3 suggests 0.34A; I squared R = 35 Watts to dissipate. With the new voltage we drop near enough to114V. To get 300mA we need 380 ohms. So a chassis mount resistor of 390 Ohms and 40W is probably getting closer.
I am thinking a transformer may be more practical or a PSU for battery sets? I will check with one I know makes them.
If the voltage is changed R3 on the plate detector may need adjustment to get it back to 0.2mA?
Marc
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