Dad ?? 235 km/h with 3 kids in the car no belts?
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Last weekend I drove past three rollovers. Hard to believe. The first was on the road to Jenolan Caves. The second was on the M4 at the foot of the Blue Mountains and the third was in suburban Gladesville. All on the same day, all most likely by drivers who just don't give a damn about other road users.
People wonder why the road toll is going up. They blame the government for not locking more dangerous road users up but neglect to blame (and shame) the idiots who are causing the carnage. I think the penalties for serious traffic offences should be stiffer but at the end of the day, some of the effort has to come from drivers too.
I know Victoria has some stiff penalties, including forcing the owner of a car used this way to watch their car being crushed. New South Wales was going to bring in the same penalties until the luvvy duvvy civil libertarians campaigned against it. Although here in New South Wales if you do more than 45 over the limit you lose your licence for three months and risk a month in gaol. Perhaps all three punishments should apply concurrently, plus a monetary fine of a few thousand dollars.
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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Its shocking Brad ! So many ignorant yobos on a Ego trip.
This christmas holidays the road toll was double from last year.
Its at the stage where I dont go away or drive at this time of the year anymore.
Pete,
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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I note that the site & Firefox are not getting along. So it's IE.
The ignorance on the road has to be seen to be believed at times. Day or night I can see morons with fog lights on, or lights that are not all working. One of the problems around here with roads , is the roads. One of the reasons country drivers die on country roads is that they are crap. There is not one car in my fleet & even the agricultural motorcycle that drives on the road, that has not had suspension damage.
To add insult to injury Novembers bill for tyres that had been side-walled, from substandard gravel with sharp points was $427 and I know of two others that had that happen. The ute & trailer here have actually been fitted with Light Truck tyres for more resilience. Ute is on its fourth front end re-build.
Another factor is those that are not capable of driving at high speed after just driving around cities, or not being able to appreciate the risks involved in driving at higher speeds for extended periods. The higher concentration requirements do encourage fatigue and the changes in road surface & condition are often unpredictable. There is one road around here that whilst bitumen, was rutted. In heavy rain aquaplaning was a reality. 2016 saw one character land in a paddock, going too fast in heavy rain& doing that.
I was following a car in the Ute in an alpine area. Speed limit 80, (winding narrow road) which we were doing at this point. Obviously too slow for two clowns on bikes, so the only place for them to pass, was on double lines on a blind corner, & they wonder why they get killed: All it needed was a truck, we had nowhere to go on the left.
Marc
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Southern Cross Drive, which runs from the Eastern Distributor, a block away from the SCG, to Lady Davidson Beach at Brighton Le Sands, has claimed quite a few cyclists. Why they continue to ride on that road is beyond me. Much of it has no shoulders and is an 80 zone for its entire length.
Still, they ride it because it's their right to do so but maybe for safety reasons that right should be taken away. There was a time when bikes weren't allowed on divided roads because of the speeds of the motor traffic and the funny thing that came out of that was that fewer people were dying. A lot of people have died before they had to just because they are exercising their rights, and with that, people are losing the skills to stay alive.
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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...
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Location: Belrose, NSW
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Hmmmm. It's not what you know.......
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Location: Latham, ACT
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There are smart cyclists ( me ) and there are dumb cyclists. The smart ones stay away from motor vehicles unless absolutely necessary and the dumb ones take their right of way regardless. A small car weighs a tonne and a bicycle with a fat cyclist weighs 160 kgs , which one will survive is purely mathematical.
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Location: Belrose, NSW
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Here lies the body of Julian Grey,
Who died defending his right-of-way.
He was right, all right,
as he droned along,
But he's just as dead as if he was wrong.
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Location: Melbourne, VIC
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I live on a narrow busy street in the inner city. There is a continuous single white line down the centre. One of the rules of a single white line is that U-turns are not permitted - $315 fine. This street also is a busy bus route. You are also not permitted to pass a bus when they pulling out of a stop.
My mates and I on a Sunday arvo will have a few beers sitting at tables in the street outside a bar. We play a game where we make thousands of imaginary dollars in the course of the afternoon watching all the illegal U-turns in my street.
The funny is that 100% of these illegal U-turners come from a country that is well known for shiftiness, corruption, nepotism & filth. A drink driver killer coward there is trying to escape an extradition order back to Australia. A work colleague who is a former cop told me that in this particular country all that is needed for getting a drivers licence is a bribe. Then they come here and exploit a loop hole where after six months they can exchange their dodgy licence for legitimate Victorian one without having to sit a test. I'm not sure how true this all this, but by the way they drive they certainly have no concept of the rules. I've tried for years to get the council to install no U-turn signs but it has fallen on deaf ears.
As for bike riding, I stay well away from the main roads where at all possible. I will not ride a motor bike here either. I feel much safer riding a motor bike in a third world country where everyone else is riding one too.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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a former cop told me that in this particular country all that is needed for getting a drivers licence is a bribe.
Not sure which country you are referring to, but I know that is a fact in China because I know a woman who did it -- she paid for a 'mail order' licence. After 6 or so one hour driving instruction sessions here she sat and passed her NSW driving test and, on the strength of the translated Chinese licence, she went straight to a full licence without the red and green provisional periods which now total (I think) 2.5 years.
Now, when I sat my driving licence at age 16 and 9 months I went straight to a full licence, too. However, I did have quite a few hours on L plates before that whilst driving my parents' cars.
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Oh boy I miss the inner city, for many years my life revolved around Newtown and Glebe.
Now I'm over near Dee why and it's a long way from the things I have always done and the people I know.
People are fine here and it's all very civilized, but it's a big adjustment.
Now double lines ! Years ago the cops would be very strict about it here in Sydney,but now their not and you see people doing U turns over double lines all the Time.
It's like the lines have no meaning anymore. Shit scary when you ride motorcycles as I did for years.
You lock it up and get ready to throw it on its side and you see some dopey driver say oh sorry!
I don't ride anymore, I started riding trailbikes at 5 and then road bikes at 16 and I sold them all off about 4 years ago. My whole family were riders.
Old fart now!
The odd thing was I keep safe through it all,the accident that near killed me was not on a motorcycle or a car ,it was opening a kitchen window which fell and I needed a full transfusion.
It's often the simple things we do that we get caught out with,, particularly around the home.
Remember Molly and the Ladder!
Pete
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Location: NSW
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Re driving licences
I have an acquaintance who works in a Services New South Wales office in an inner Sydney suburb. These Offices are responsible for testing drivers for suitability for a drivers licence. One of the testers finishes up today and goes back on the spanners as a motor mechanic. He has had enough frights. It is not unusual for the tester to tell the driver to pull up, get out of the vehicle and walk back to the office.
Multiple tests of drivers over years trying to get their licences are not unusual. One stopped when hubby came in with her ready to raise the roof. So they took him on the test with her. She didn't come back after that.
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Location: Melbourne, VIC
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GTC.
I did give a clue as to which country I was referring to.
Something about a drink drive killer coward.
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Location: Sydney, NSW
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Mono: I don't follow VIC news.
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