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 Return to top of page · Post #: 16 · Written at 4:02:52 PM on 14 August 2017.
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It would help with members who use the site's search engine to look for that sort of thing, definitely. You would have to embed the text in with the HTML code that links to the pictures. If you aren't up to speed on how to go about this just e-mail me the captions and I'll add them for you. The standard code would need modification for it to work correctly.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 17 · Written at 4:57:13 PM on 14 August 2017.
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Haven't a clue about HTML code. So I'll email something in the form of Photo 1, top left etc etc. Might take a while as my refrigerator has just carked it so have to chase that job.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 18 · Written at 7:05:00 PM on 14 August 2017.
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Sounds good. (Except about the fridge)


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 19 · Written at 9:28:07 AM on 15 August 2017.
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My old fridge stopped working,
So I phoned a mate of mine who use to repair them and I explained that the fridge is just dead. Not turning on ? No sound ? So he said ,, oh pete the starter is probably stuffed. Turn the fridge on at the wall and then give the motor one good kick with your boot!
Bingo! Yep started up straight away.
That was about 4 years ago and the problem never came back . Its a 1957 Crosley

Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 20 · Written at 9:14:03 PM on 15 August 2017.
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Mine turned out to be a thermostat problem, symptoms being erratic temperature control and intermittent not working at all. Just erratic temperature control I would have had a go at replacing the thermostat myself, but I thought that intermittent not working at all might be something else as well, so called a serviceman.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 21 · Written at 9:17:21 PM on 15 August 2017.
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give the motor one good kick with your boot!

Booting up your fridge. Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 22 · Written at 9:39:39 PM on 15 August 2017.
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Back in the B&W service days, it wasn't uncommon to find CRTs with a bad internal cathode connection to the base pin. O/C cathode would result in a dim raster, retrace lines and no picture. Thomas CRTs were known for this. For some reason, 23HP4s with the laminated faceplates seemed to be the most common, as well as costing the most to replace.

Before booking a replacement CRT, you'd tap the neck of the tube fairly firmly with a screwdriver handle. This would almost always result in a cure, sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent.

Once I was challenged to justify the $17.50 bill for doing this, on a COD service call. The answer of course was:

1. Tapping the tube neck ---$2.50
2. Knowing where to tap --- $15

But I like the "putting the boot in" story better!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 23 · Written at 1:08:03 PM on 20 August 2017.
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I had agreed with Brad by email to submit the captions for the radio photos to him to add using HTML script. However because there is a deal of confusing information about AWA Radiolettes in particular, and because interesting ads are available on ebay at the moment which members might like to look at I have decided to post what I have for photos 1 and 2 now. Members can then look at what I have and comment or correct based on their information and knowledge.
Will submit photo 3 when finished.

Once the situation is clear as it is likely to get, will then submit thecaptions to Brad.

Information from NGV website indicated.

Photo 1
Top: Empire State and matching cigarette boxes, my best guess, based on Stokes and radiomuseum: jade green (NGV speckled blue/green), NGV brown, grained ivory or imitation marble (NGV speckled white), NGV black, jade green (NGV green), ivory (NGV white).

Black is sometimes given in advertisements as "lustrous black"; brown as "walnut", "figured walnut" or "mahogany". Ivory in ads appears as mottled.

The colour of the radios in the photo is not perfectly clear in every case, particularly brown and black. The colours available in various models and years is a little confusing when referring to Stokes and Radiomuseum. So this information probably stands correcting with better photos of the exhibition and/or historical knowledge.
)NGV The speckled blue/green is labelled by NGV as the only example in existance.
NGV do not give model numbers to the Empire States and all are attributed 1934 year of manufacture.)

According to Stokes "Golden Age of Radio in the Home"
29 presumeably brown and/or black AWA Fisk Radiolette Model 29 1935 (picture, p152)
32 imitation marble AWA Fisk Radiolette 32, 5-Valve BC 1936 (picture, p152)
37B figured walnut, grained ivory or jade green AWA Fisk Radiolette Model 37B, 5-Valve BC 1937 (picture, p153)
37 lustrous black AWA Fisk Radiolette Model 37, 5-Valve BC 1937 (picture p153)
28 presumeably brown and/or black AWA Fisk Radiolette Model R28 1936 (text, p154)

According to Stokes "More Golden Age of Radio", front cover
32 imitation marble AWA Fisk Radiolette 32, 5-Valve BC 1936
37B jade green AWA Fisk Radiolette 37B, 5-Valve BC 1937

According to Radio Museum (all Radiolettes except 48 which is Radiola)
28 picture black, text black only, BC 5-valve reflex 1934/35
29 picture brown, text bakelite no colour given, BC 5-valve reflex 1935
30 no picture, text ivory, BC 5-valve reflex RF section 1935
31 picture black, text bakelite no colour given, BC 5-valve reflex RF section 1936
32 no picture, text ivory, BC 5-valve reflex RF section 1936
37 picture green, text bakelite no colour given, BC 5-valve reflex 1937
48 (Radiola) picture brown, text bakelite no colour given, BC 4-valve reflex 1938/1939
"AWA produced a series of Bakelight Empire State radios between 1934 and 1937.
Radiolette models R28, R29, R30, R31, R32 & R37 & the Radiola R48."
48 advertisement now on ebay gives colours as black,walnut, mahogany, ivory. The ivory is mottled in the picture. ebay item 112531510311.

(There is quite a set of photos of Empire States at
ttps://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/index/725-radios-awa/?keyword=empire&Submit=
for those interested. The colours reported in this site, which perhaps represent the colours used in the antiques/old wares industry, are:
black, brown, green, white, mottled brown, marbleized white with brown & black, marbleized ivory with brown & black.)

A reference mentioned in radiomuseum is "AWA Radiolettes 1932-1949" edited by Peter Hughes. No doubt this would have valuable information on official and actual colours.
There are books of radio advertisements which I don't have which may give more information on official colours of various models of radios.

Haven't yet gone through HRSA Radio Waves which has information on Empire States, and the other radios below. Will get onto this when I have time.

Bottom (l to r):
(NGV Briton)/Aristone/(Philips V5A/V7A) Theatrette Model 1938 green (NGV only one of this colour known. Also in brown bakelite.)

Mullard BC 1938 (NGVwhite, speckled green, black, Speckled green is unique example not offered to the public. Also available in brown.)

Astor Mickey model KM 1947 Chinese red (NGV red), ivory (NGV white)
(Radiomuseum: Available in 11 colours (official): Walnut, Green, Blue, Champagne, Ivory, Chinese Red, Mahogany, Marble Champagne, Marble Ivory, Amber & Aust. White. Many other unofficial colours).
(NGV at the exhibit in yellow, blue and white, pink, red, green 1939-1949)

Astor Mickey Mouse brown, mottled brown (Model BP, 1936), white (Model EC, 1937).
NGV label gives Astor Mickey Mouse EC (NGV (white, black) 1937 bakelite ie mentions only two colours.)


Photo 2, excluding radios already described:
l to r:
Astor Radiolette Model 33 foot & fret, black with white feet and fret mottled with brown 1936 (Radiomuseum)
NGV (NGV black and white)

Astor Mickey Model KM blue mottled with white 1947

(NGV Airmaster 1934 (Targan Electric))

(NGV Genalex Dapper) 505 1938

Astor Mickey Model KM pink 1947

AWA Radiolette Model (NGV C87) (4 valve TRF, 2 knobs) 1932 or Model 110/C104 (5 valve superhet., 3 knobs) 1933 (Radiomuseum)

Large advertisement, Genalex 505 1938

HMV Tower 1938 brown with white speaker fret and dial surround

Astor Mickey Model OZ timber

Astor Minnie Mouse Auditorium Console Attachment to Astor Mickey above 1933 Stokes

HMV Tower 1938 black? with white speaker fret and dial surround

AWA Radiolette Model C87 (4 valve TRF, 2 knobs) 1932 or Model 110/(NGV C104) (5 valve superhet., 3 knobs) 1933 (Radiomuseum). Presumably they wouldn't have two of the same radio, so probably one of each in the exhibition. (NGV gives C87 first, C104 second.)

Photo 3, l to r:

**** AWA Fisk Radiola 92 "eggcrate" (NGV cream, green pink, red, blue, (dark green not visible)) 1940

Airzone Symphony Leader 588 Ch=532 (NGV black and white) 1938

Astor Radiolette Model foot & fret, (NGV green, black & green, white). The model is not clear because the dial cannot be seen. Both rotating movement and horizontal movement pointer dials were produced.


There is a page on the NGV website that gives the labels for all of these radios:
https://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Brave-New-World_LargePrintLabel_170717.pdf

A bit hard to apply them to the above photos though because there do not appear to be any numbers on the items. But I have had a go with information from NGV labels indicated.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 24 · Written at 4:20:41 PM on 4 September 2017.
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I have edited post 23 with extra information for page three of photos.

Also included is information from exhibit labels from the NGV website applied throughout the post. This clears up some issues, but I am afraid adds to confusion especially with respect to colour names. Where NGV information is included it is preceded with NGV (I had intended to do this with italics but proved too fiddly.)

Might come back to this with respect to NGV information as the exhibit items are not numbered in the photos so I can't be 100% sure that I have applied the information correctly.

There is also HRSA Radio Waves information that could be applied but that would take a great deal of time so I just may not get around to it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 25 · Written at 11:07:07 AM on 16 September 2017.
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In April 1986 I took this picture in Melbourne:


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 26 · Written at 6:44:36 PM on 16 September 2017.
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Still some of those W class trams about; they have been kept as symbolic of the city. They are replaced by the Z class now.


 
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