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 Return to top of page · Post #: 31 · Written at 2:44:52 PM on 21 July 2024.
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Thanks for all the helpful tips.

The fact that inkjet printers cant print white is the biggest obstacle.

I down loaded Inkscape thinking that might be useful but the learning curve is very steep and in the end may not do what I need.

I have approached Michael Raanan in the past but he couldn't help at that time.

I may try him again just in case things have changed.

Not beaten yet.

Cheers.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 32 · Written at 2:44:54 PM on 21 July 2024.
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I have even for Gaskets scanned it and the Epson V800 would be able to scan it if it fits on the Platen with a ruler. I will hobble out & check, I think I may have one of those dials from deceased estates. One collected Philips stuff.

There are Apple programs that can transfer to photo etc and other systems.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 33 · Written at 3:30:23 PM on 21 July 2024.
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These are the only Philips / Mullard spotted. Really only suited for reprint glass. Big one is 280mm long.

Philips dial glass
Click on image for larger resolution


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 34 · Written at 8:19:43 PM on 22 July 2024.
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Photo uploaded to Post 33.

Guys, when submitting files for upload, please post the URL to the thread or the thread heading. This took me 20 minutes to find even though I'd previously been here.

I've used the clickable link on this one, so the full size image can be downloaded, if needed.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 35 · Written at 8:56:49 PM on 22 July 2024.
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Hmm! Thought I covered that?

A thought: To make those stations better & you may even avoid painting is to laser etch it. That produces a frosted glass look, which is not unappealing in itself. The other advantage is that it will provide a better coarser surface for paint to grip onto.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 36 · Written at 4:11:37 PM on 23 July 2024.
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Marcc the Philips one looks almost identical to the remains of the printing on the Mullard MAS1110 I have.

I think some badge engineering was going on with Philips and Mullard at the time.

I'll attach a photo.

Philips valve radio


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 37 · Written at 7:36:20 PM on 23 July 2024.
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For all intent an purposes Philips and Mullard are the same thing. I have a Philips 132L here and there is a Mullard in exactly the same case.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 38 · Written at 6:08:50 AM on 25 July 2024.
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I think some badge engineering was going on with Philips and Mullard at the time.

Yes. The rule of thumb here is that post war Mullards came from Philips whilst pre war ones came from Airzone.

It was mentioned earlier that inkjet printers cannot print in white. This pretty much applies to all types of printers. There may be some special printers that are geared up for it but most generally require the media to be white and the printer will then do the rest. One way around this is to do it the way the radio makers did - screenprinting - but that requires a lot of messing about and you still need a way to make the stencil.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 39 · Written at 6:09:19 AM on 25 July 2024.
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Photo uploaded to Post 36.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 40 · Written at 6:22:13 PM on 25 July 2024.
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" One way around this is to do it the way the radio makers did - screenprinting - but that requires a lot of messing about and you still need a way to make the stencil."

Which is why I suggested a PCB maker, the component overlay on the PCB is screen printed paint.

You just need to generate the gerber file and I suggested a way of doing this.

You need 2 people - one with an existing dial and a ruler. Work along the dial horizontally, reading out the callsign and the position in mm. 2nd person types this into a spreadsheet.

The speadsheet is then used to create the "PCB" file, which is exported as a gerber and sent off to the board maker in China, but printed on clear polycabonate instead of FR4. Surprisingly cheap and you can have 1, 10 or 100 pieces for almost the same money.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 41 · Written at 11:13:02 PM on 25 July 2024.
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I will send Brad a photo of the 132l You may be surprised. I have photoshopped the dial to enhance it.

Valve radio dial glass
Valve radio dial glass


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 42 · Written at 7:55:00 AM on 26 July 2024.
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Was in Officeworks a week ago and noticed that they offer photos printed on glass. I haven't followed this up, but they use 6mm safety glass which might be too thick even for this application.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 43 · Written at 4:31:13 PM on 27 July 2024.
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I will take a photo of the glass and use irfan view to enhance it. Then I'll have a go at using the paint option to see how good I can make it.

Nothing to lose.

I feel I have totally hijacked this thread.

Apologies to the op.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 44 · Written at 10:47:18 PM on 31 July 2024.
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Photos uploaded to Post 41.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 45 · Written at 10:15:58 PM on 1 August 2024.
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I fail to see why something cannot be achieved. If the thing can be copied (scanned) as I have done; It may be able to be repaired using something as primitive as "Paint"or an AutoCAD That will get you an image file.

Now you will note many glass doors with names on them. There is a way of using a cutter to make stencils with lettering which you roll onto the glass. So do consider a sign writer.


 
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