Why vintage tv's are NOT suited to the faint hearted!
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Dramas, I set my 1958 w102 up in kitchen and plugged in the video ,
turned the tellie on and got a image,but I needed to then adjust the vertical, so I turned the knob to do so,,,,bang ,bang bang bang,like a cap gun going off! So I knew it was arcing and I had fair idea it would only be the CRT high voltage suction cap
I had this problem with another set once and it was only because the suction cap was not plugged into the CRT enough,
So I sat behind the tellie and waited to see an Arc, sure enough, I saw about 5 shoot from the CRT cap lead towards the chassis looking for ground..
By this stage it was 130pm so I called it a night.
So I will fix that and have another go tonight it's only a loose suction cap!! Not a M27!
Spiked my senses up though,, bang bang bang, so bloody loud!! I Thought the Ex wife had poked a Gun through the window!!!
Haha good fun old Tellies!.
It's actually a very nice original set this one ,full of old caps but still runs I bought it off the original owner for 100 bucks and I'm happy with that.
Pete
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Location: Albury, NSW
Member since 2 July 2017
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Pete
Must have scared the life out of you.!!!
Just acts as a reminder how careful you have to be with vintage electronics.
BTW This is a Pye model isn't it ?
I see there is an old Pye just been listed on eBay. It is in Melbourne.
A bit pricey but looks to be in good condition.
See link below
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/122937892335
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Location: Hobart, TAS
Member since 31 July 2016
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Just remember Pete, The CRT is made of glass and glass is the almost perfect insulator.
Hence, it will hold a full EHT voltage for a long time when the set is turned off.
I think live chassis radios are more dangerous.
But EHT zap can give you a nasty shock and RF burn.
Where as live DC pulsed mains results in death, if careless.
JJ
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Location: Albury, NSW
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It did make me jump! It was much much louder than I've ever heard before.
Yes JJ thanks mate, I'm always very caful and only use one arm.
I know how to discharge the CRT if needed,
I guess because it's a w102 and the chassis is on the side of the CRT it makes it very easy for the power to Arc as apposed too other chassis that sit under the CRT.
The chassis is only a couple of inches away from the CRT high voltage cap.
Nothing wrong though this set works!
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Location: Albury, NSW
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That link to ebay is a Pye W102. As well.
I have a few of them , 17 inch with legs, ,21,with legs 21 console
Nice sets
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Yeah I was curious to know if it was similar to yours.
Nice looking sets
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Their not rare. Most are 1958.
They look great in a light colour.this one is golden oak, I will put a photo on later and show you.
Pete
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Location: Albury, NSW
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I like the Pye's they seem to me to be a hybrid of British & American design.
I grew up with a Pye TV. It was a console and the first colour TV my parents bought in 1975.
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Location: Melbourne, VIC
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The Pye TV on eBay is a 1958 model W201C.
The thought of even suggesting a fish tank conversion makes me cringe!!
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Member #: 1919
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There I go writing my numbers backwards again!
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Location: Albury, NSW
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I hear you...
I have the same thought every time I see a vintage TV advertised as "ideal for fish tank conversion"
Now I like fish, just not in vintage TV's
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Location: Belrose, NSW
Member since 31 December 2015
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EHT flashovers are usually a result of dust and humidity. Used to keep us busy back in the day. Break out the metho, cleaning rags and vaseline.
Pye TVs were well designed, worked well and were reliable, so a lot of them were made, which explains why they aren't so rare.
I used to know some engineers at Pye Marrickville. In 1970, in preparation for colour, management assumed that they'd base their colour TV on the UK Pye design. But it was so far behind what Pye were already doing in B&W that they didn't waste much time on it. The T29, released in 1973 / 4, was a mix of Australian, Japanese and European design, they picked the best from each.
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Location: Albury, NSW
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I think Ian , I probably did not have the plug in all the way on the CRT.
I did remove that chassis once about a year ago so I could get a good look at it.
But this TV is a fine ! It's only that the cap was loose.
But I will clean it up with metho, while I'm there anyway.
Pete
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Location: Belrose, NSW
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It used to scare the bejesus out of TV service clients. "I thought is was going to blow up so I switched the power off at the meter board!"
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Location: Albury, NSW
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Member #: 1919
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Hi mate, I found the problem.
The metal connection on the end of High voltage lead, is held in by clip method, ,This is done by the connector having a split down the middle of it which allows it to spread open and holds its self in place in the CRT , my connector was squash so it falls out, plus the wire needs a re solder.
So I fixed the clip and it will now hold in place again , I will solder the wire on and it should be set to go again.
Cleaned it with metho and I discharged the CRT to ground so it's all good!
Pete
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