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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 7:21:30 AM on 8 May 2018.
Flukeoneseventyfive's Gravatar
 Location: Laidley, QLD
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G'Day
I picked up 3 Tele's from an avid collector in Stanthorpe, one of the few places in Queensland, that gets snow, every couple of years.
One Kriesler 79-16 A119 the one with the clock.

And two Philips One is an 8323, the other is the 1962 model, Left the details at home.
Strange the 1962 model is a solid wood cabinet and the 1963 model is chipboard, which has seen some water on one side at the bottom and has done what chip board normally does when it gets wet, the rest of the cabinet looks great.
I haven't had any thing to do with Philips TV's before, what are the common issues and what should I be aware of with these.

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 8:11:07 PM on 11 May 2018.
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 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Philips early 60's PCB chassis? A well designed, good performing TV.

No specific issues that I recall, just the usual high value IRC resistors going high or O/C.

Electros in the voltage doubler power supply go O/C. EHT transformer overwind goes shorted turns. Avoid this by ensuring b+boost stab pot is set correctly.

Company I worked for in the late 60s early 70s had a large number of these in their rental fleet. Base model cabinet, grey vinyl covered.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 9:07:57 AM on 12 May 2018.
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 Location: Laidley, QLD
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Many thanks for the info Ian.
I did send some pic's to Brad, I guess he is snowed under with other things.

I find PCB layouts are much easier for me to follow, than some of the point to point wiring,
I am just a board jockey at work these days, maybe one percent of the work now is component level repair, which is a good thing, the cost of labour would be well in excess of the cost of the boards and I have enough work and customers to try and keep happy, and is not the way I want to spend my days at work, used to do microwave photonics assembly work under microscope many years ago. These days I enjoy coming home and doing some component level fault finding and repairs and being able to see the components, and trying to hold onto some of the skills I don't use any more.

What are the sets that one should steer clear of, they are all collectable and a challenge is good, and it is all a learning process, keeps the grey matter functioning a bit longer, but there must be some sets that one should approach with some caution.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 4:36:13 PM on 12 May 2018.
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I did send some pic's to Brad, I guess he is snowed under with other things.

Sort of. I am away from the computer that I upload images with but will be home tonight and will sort out all submitted files tonight before 22:00. There's files from four or five members by the looks.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 5:37:54 PM on 12 May 2018.
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Thanks Brad, no problems.hope you are enjoying the break away.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 1:05:21 PM on 14 May 2018.
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QUOTE: Philips early 60's PCB chassis?


How about that Philips turret tuner with the printed circuit biscuits? Was it unique to Australia? I once grouped the active channels and removed rest of biscuits for buyer of used TV to reduce the chances of it destroying itself, which they had a tendency to do!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 1:44:11 PM on 14 May 2018.
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TV's to steer clear of? None that come to mind. They all have their good and bad points.

There was a time where I would have said anything that has difficult under-chassis access (Admiral) and anything that has a live chassis (e.g. early Ekco) But not any more.

I have a preference for TVs that can deliver good image quality with accurate black level retention. That rules out early AWAs, Admirals, Healings and favours HMVs, Krieisler, Philips.

NewVista, I don't know if those tuners were a local design, they may well have been. I've never seen any of them self-destruct - did part of the rotor detach from the shaft? Or did some butcher tighten the screw that locates the stationary contact assembly causing a collision?

There was a later tiny Philips turret tuner that made it into the colour era that was originally designed by AWA and first appeared in the P4.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 9:50:42 PM on 14 May 2018.
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QUOTE: did part of the rotor detach from the shaft?


It didn't have to, because, as you know, the tuner relied on a precision offset of rotating biscuit contacts engaging row of [delicate, flimsy] flex spring stationary contacts. You would cringe to watch it operate, then imagine reckless customers spinning it fast day in and day out. Needless to say, they would, often enough, fail with bent stationary contacts - a fatal condition that would doom the tuner.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 7:02:10 AM on 15 May 2018.
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 Location: Laidley, QLD
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Thanks for posting the pictures Brad.

Ian I know what you are saying, good or bad points, they are all worth saving from those people, that stuff them with fish tanks, or the final trip to land fill. I had a nasty bite from a live chassis ac/dc Pope portable in the 1970's, I watched the lunar landing on that television, It wasn't a favourite television after the shock and I am not too sure where it ended up, parents may have thrown it out, I have never seen one since and would love to get my hands on another one.
I am partial to Kriesler and Astor's, shame is, you run out of storage room very quickly.

The biscuits, with the etched spiral inductors, I have seen broken ones as a teenager, but also a lot of dry joints and the link from the center of the coil, had dodgy soldering.
I still have some biscuits in boxes of bits, collected over the years.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 9:02:55 AM on 2 June 2018.
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 Location: Noosa, QLD
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HI Flukeoneseventyfive I'm in QLD too on the sunshine coast and a big tv collector. I was talking to mat the other day and he said someone cam and bought some tvs off him, you have some nice sets and nice radios too!!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 10:56:52 AM on 2 June 2018.
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 Location: Laidley, QLD
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G'Day Blingbling81.
I replied to you message Toby, sorry been busy week, great to see you on the forum.


 
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