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Martinwilliams's Gravatar
 Location: Enmore, NSW
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Hi, I'm new to this forum and am looking for some help or advice. I need to find a working 1970's Colour Television and an 1970's Black and White Television to use in a new ABC television program. We are based in Sydney and have a limited timeframe. Am willing to Buy or Hire.
I can provide a lot more information if there is any one out there who may be able to assist. I have tried gumtree and bay and am tracking what is available on those sites. Televisions need to be of a decent size, not portable.
Thanks again
Martin


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 1:31:24 PM on 2 February 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Hi Martin

I should be able to help you, including getting pictures on them from composite video.. My email address is not hidden. I'm at Belrose.

I have a 26" Kriesler CTV from 1976 and a 21" Kriesler B&W from 1959, which may be a bit old for you. A friend of mine has a 23" Pye Pedigree B&W TV from early 70's that he's told me could be available.

Ian


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 7:48:49 PM on 4 February 2018.
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 GTC
 Location: Sydney, NSW
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I should be able to help you

Did you get a reply?

Over the years I've seen a few such requests on here, but they leave no contact details and we never hear from them again.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 8:17:47 PM on 4 February 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Yes GTC. Martin is dropping off an HMV Windsor he already has on Monday night to get fixed. I'm finally getting around to replacing the tripler in the Kriesler 59-3. The Kriesler and the Pye Pedigree alongside each other clash a bit in style so we're going with the HMV. Setting up on Thursday to put pictures on the TVs ready for the shoot.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 8:38:21 PM on 4 February 2018.
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 GTC
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Good to know. I now wonder what the program is about.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 10:38:28 PM on 4 February 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Not sure if I am allowed to tell you. But you will hear about it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 3:25:40 PM on 6 February 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Last night I was tasked with getting a late 60s B&W TV (HMV Windsor PU series chassis) running for a TV production that is re-creating family life in the 70's. They will be shooting pictures off its screen...

Hard to find, late 60's B&W TVs, all in landfill years ago!

Anyway, no picture, no HV. EHT transformer had been replaced back in the 70s with a non-genuine part. Strange, these MSP-made transformers never fail in my experience....

-60 volts drive on G1 of 6CM5, 135v on G2, 0 volts on B+Boost, either side of the cap.

A half-watt 27 ohm resistor in series with the 6AL3 damper plate had burned up (because of the previous bad tranny?)

Replaced it, now have HV and a bright horizontal line on the screen.

I shorted the vert osc anode to ground, line jumps up and down on the screen. So OP stage is OK.

Vert osc not running, plate at 23 volts.

Checked blocking osc transformer, measured OK.

Measured height pot slider, 23 volts. Hang on, that's the same as the output stage cathode voltage!

There is a 2μF electro from height pot slider to cathode. No!! electros don't go S/C!

Measured it, ZERO OHMS!

Replaced it, adjusted picture geometry etc. Nice bright sharp picture from original Thomas CRT. A bit of cramping at the top of the raster. Vertical hold pot up one end.

Replaced the original 1967 vintage 6GV8. Perfect linearity, hold pot in middle of range.

Helped Producer to load it into his van, alongside the period-correct and working Victa lawnmower!

Now I've got to get my Kriesler 59-3 going in time for the shoot on Friday.

There's one good thing about "restoring" a late 60's TV - you generally don't have to! No paper caps and by then they had learned how to make good electrolytics (well usually!!)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 9:56:10 PM on 6 February 2018.
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 Location: Albury, NSW
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Sounds like you had a very busy evening Ian.

It will be good to see the program when it finally airs.

I can' t help thinking about all those late 60's sets in landfill.!!! Very sad.

My brother in law works in landfill and said to me they get old TV's all the time.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 10:15:10 PM on 6 February 2018.
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 Location: Sydney, NSW
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I spent a good deal of my teenage years fossicking at the local dump, and valve B&W TV sets were commonly thrown out, especially when colour TV started up. Blowing up pictures tubes was fun.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 10:22:23 PM on 6 February 2018.
Ian Robertson's Gravatar
 Location: Belrose, NSW
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Yes, that HMV with its point-to-point wiring and flip-down chassis. Service tech's dream!

Just scanning over the chassis, I could name the Sydney suburb where every single component in that TV was made.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 10:28:59 PM on 6 February 2018.
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 Location: Albury, NSW
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We are funny with technology.

We can't wait to replace things with the latest and greatest.

Reminds me of a clip I saw years ago which has stayed with me.
It was from that wonderful Peter Luck documentary series " This Fabulous Century"
It was a black and white clip from the 20's I think, of a man playing on top of a heap of pianos before they were set on fire.
This was when the radio replaced the piano as the "must have" household item.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 10:25:03 PM on 10 February 2018.
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 Sue
 Location: Daylesford, VIC
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Fear not, I've saved quite a few 60s sets from landfill; my local tip had a very helpful person in charge. But I haven't seen a B&W set there for several years. Either there's none left in town to dump, or they go on Ebaygumtree instead.


 
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