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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 1:51:35 AM on 27 August 2017.
Vintage Pete's avatar
 Location: Albury, NSW
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Nice old doco about working in a TV factory. Some interesting sets and some very interesting ways of testing them.

A good blast from the past for TV fans like myself.



 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 6:38:56 PM on 28 August 2017.
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 Location: Linton, VIC
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Fantastic doco, thanks Pete.

The Americans set the standards in manufacturing, and still do (give me an American Strat over a Srat copy any day)

The quality control and testing applied then seems to never have been taken up by some of our "newer" trading partners.

I just purchased twenty 0.01/50V ceramic caps for a project--------all but two of the damn things are so hopelessly microphonic that they are virtually useless for the task.

In my servicing days I would often hit a ceramic briefly with a soldering iron tip to try and tease out intermittent faults. I often wondered if what I was doing was harming the cap----and here we see in the doco caps (and other components) going into ovens as routine QC procedure.

I won't go on about it, my political incorrectness will get be into strife, but no prizes for anybody who can guess where my forty bits of metal enclosed in mud came from.

Damn it, brink back the valve, and NOT China-made!

 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 7:59:58 PM on 28 August 2017.
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 Location: Albury, NSW
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Hi mate,
Yeah I dont buy anything made in china if there is any other way not too.
Its not because I'm a Racist,,,,Gosh my wife is the colour of charcoal! Its because they make Rubbish that ends up on the throw outs and land fill within 6 months of buying it.
The other reason is, it has taken away the manufacturer industry from this country and many others.
Im 49 and when I first left school this country was full of jobs. But as the years rolled on I watched them all close down and then I watched my generation struggle to find jobs .
Plus the whole situation reminds me of the pig Iron Bob stories of pre ww2, Particularly now with the trouble in the south china sea.

Now Strats ! Gosh I have not seen a true Strat for years now at any junk sales or garage sales. Their all copies.
Oh ,,,i wish I could find a good USA strat ,They bring huge money now.
Mind you , Sydney is so costly now I would really need to find the yellow submarine or the Holy Grail to make any differance, he he he .

 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 6:58:04 PM on 29 August 2017.
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 Location: Linton, VIC
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Talking of Pig Iron Bob,

A mate of mine told a story about his dad, who owned the first Toyota I had ever seen. (Crown???)

It had an electric wind-up/down rear window (station wagon) Unbelievable!

One day he pranged it, and the panel beater had great delight in telling the whole village that he found a strip of tinplate with Camp Pie written on it. It was inside a door cavity.

I was in primary school at the time, and wonder today if the story was made up, there was a lot of anti-Jap feeling in my little town in the 60's.

Everyone had FJ's except my dad, who embarrassed me with his dull grey Vanguard, God what I wouldn't give now to have that old bus today.

But back to the Toyota, look how far they got, so perhaps there is hope for Chinese industry-----I would like to think the market will dictate demand for quality improvement, otherwise no more sales----just about everyone I know has stopped buying their crappy products.



 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 7:33:03 PM on 29 August 2017.
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I would like to think the market will dictate demand for quality improvement,

It will happen. QC isn't rocket science. All it takes is the motivation and will to implement it.

Younger people often don't believe me when I say that, when I was a kid in primary school, the words "Made in Japan" meant cheap junk. The Japanese had the good sense to follow the teachings of Duran and Deming.

The South Korean car industry is a more recent example. Their first Hyundai cars were dreadful. Today it's a different story.

I think the barons of Chinese industry know that it won't be too long before they find themselves under-priced by Third World countries on the rise. By that time they need to have gone the Japanese quality route in high margin products, as they lose the el cheapo markets to the bottom fishers.

 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 8:58:16 PM on 29 August 2017.
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GTC, I couldn't agree more.

It seems what you have just described is a cycle, which has probably been with mankind since day one. Improvements cost, so do it only when you have to.

And the Chinese are no fools, so, standby for Generation 2 Made In China.

As for young folks, my kids refuse to believe my generation survived without mobile phones permanently attached to the side of our heads.


 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 10:29:38 PM on 29 August 2017.
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Their first Hyundai cars were dreadful.

And the Australian distributor at the time was...

Bond Motor Corporation. Smile Always in it for a fast buck, Bondy was.


A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

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