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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 9:48:20 AM on 25 February 2014.
Damien T's Gravatar
 Location: Perth, WA
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Hi All,

I recently picked up a Kriesler 121-82A in pretty good condition and was hoping that someone had a schematic or any documentation at all regarding the 79-15 TV chassis. There was a field service guide taped inside the back cover but it has started to deteriorate and become unreadable.

The chassis is stamped 79-15B, but I am unable to find any information regarding this revision.

Thanks in advance!

Here's a picture of the TV in as-found condition.

http://i.imgur.com/NHFOMsS.jpg.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 11:43:03 AM on 25 February 2014.
Chris Ronayne's avatar
 Location: Wauchope, NSW
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I don't have a copy of the circuit diagram, though Andrew (TV_Collector) may. I'll send him an email.

That's a beautiful set you have! There seem to be a few Krieslers popping up as of late. I'm still wanting a Kriesler V1 and am kicking myself for not bidding on the one that popped up in Sydney.

Chris


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 2:37:11 PM on 25 February 2014.
Damien T's Gravatar
 Location: Perth, WA
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Thanks Chris I appreciate it.

I haven't had a chance to power it up yet as I haven't had access to a variac. Hopefully it comes back without too much work as it would make a great dedicated black and white set for vintage material.

I also wanted to save it from becoming a fish tank.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 5:10:11 PM on 25 February 2014.
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I also hate when sets are turned into fish tanks. I have a 1962 HMV P1 and a 1967 HMV Trent 23"


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"I'd rather have a CRT than nothing" - me
"people just throw working CRTs out, it is NOT FUNNY!" -me

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 9:19:07 PM on 25 February 2014.
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 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I've sent some scans of the 79-14 and 79-15 field service card for Brad to attach to this post. They should appear within the next day or so.

The circuit is for the early version chassis so there may be some component value changes. I also have the service manual scanned but it is 23 pages long and 23.6 MB in size so I'll hold off on uploading it until I know it's needed.

Kriesler 79-14 Television
Kriesler 79-14 Television
Kriesler 79-14 Television
Kriesler 79-14 Television
Click images for larger versions.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 9:45:48 PM on 25 February 2014.
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 Location: Wauchope, NSW
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Gah, don't get me started! Frown I've seen too many sets of this era and earlier gutted for ugly fish-tanks! I even saw a late-1940s (yep, you heard me right! 1940s!) tabletop in Victoria that had been gutted with the intention of turning it into a fish-tank. Considering we got television in 1956, that would be worth a few quid complete to us collectors! The seller had even destroyed the valuable CRT in it too...

Chris


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 12:34:17 AM on 26 February 2014.
Damien T's Gravatar
 Location: Perth, WA
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Thanks very much collector that's exactly what I needed. I found the very same manual stapled inside the back of my set but silverfish had eaten some of the important information!

The fish tank thing was very in vogue a few decades ago, I'm surprised more people don't know better now.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 9:51:59 PM on 26 February 2014.
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 Location: Daylesford, VIC
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People are still doing it, but every now and then someone has the brilliant idea of ripping out the CRT and chassis and putting in a modern flat screen! It doesn't look right, you don't have the blueish glow, you can't see the scanning lines, and where's that little spot in the middle of the screen when you turn off?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 10:13:59 PM on 26 February 2014.
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Yes it is like people who convert consoles to CD players and try to get them to work like jukeboxes. It's vandalism really. Perplexed


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 10:31:40 PM on 26 February 2014.
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 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I'm really surprised at the persistence of the fishtanking fad. I've seen TV cases offered for sale already gutted for just this purpose. They're usually listed for excessively high prices for the privilege of having a TV already vandalised for you. The surprising thing is that some actually do sell.

I have heard the counter argument that it makes the surviving intact sets even more valuable as there are less of them left.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 10:03:13 PM on 27 February 2014.
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 Location: Wauchope, NSW
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I'm not sure that we want tube televisions to become so rare and subsequently valuable because everyone "fish-tanked" them. I'd rather them be common with lower monetary value than rare with a higher value. At least parts will be easier to obtain if they are more common, and it will be easier for beginners to obtain sets without emptying out their wallets and bank accounts...

The "bodge-jobs" people do where they stick in a flat panel are horrible! Sticking a flat screen into the space previously occupied by a convex screen does not look good. You end up with ugly gaps at the top, bottom and sides...

Chris


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 10:49:15 PM on 27 February 2014.
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Low values are good for us, people who stand a chance of fixing an old set ourselves, but in the long run it may mean fewer survivors. The large 3 in 1 entertainment centres are worth approximately nothing unless they're in exceptionally good condition, and I wonder if some of the rarer 3 in 1 models are already completely lost.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 9:56:55 PM on 28 February 2014.
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I agree that high values aren't always a good thing. I recently paid a few bob under $3,000.00 for an Astor JN. It's a bloody nice radio and probably more on the rare side than most and certainly desired by a lot of collectors or the bidding wouldn't have gone that high to begin with. At the end of the day it is just a metal chassis with six valves in a brown Bakelite cabinet like most other radios of the period.

Whilst it is heartening to know someone else was prepared to pay close to what I paid, I just hope I am able to get my money back if I was ever in the mood to sell.

When I started collecting something like 26 years ago people were throwing radios of all types on their council clean-up piles with gay abandon. I guess no-one knew at the time they'd be worth more than bars of gold.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 9:37:20 PM on 1 March 2014.
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Sue, here's a beauty of a 3-in-1 for you! I love the fold-out control panel/tuner. The tuner knob is the same as my '66 AWA P2.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boondall/collectables/vintage-awa-3-in-1-record-player-radio-band-tv/1039709749.

Chris


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 10:42:23 PM on 2 March 2014.
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The pop-up controls are cute. But I'm afraid with three full sized tellies and four record players I'm about at my limit.


 
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