RECENT ASTOR 6BE6 6AD8 6BD7 (?) 6V4 Help wanted on (?)
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Location: Elizabeth, SA
Member since 1 September 2009
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I hate it when a label is rubbed off. Not my fault this time. Tried the service manual, but it's too recent to be in it. Sweaty fingers are a menace. It's got No 6419.. on the blue sticker the rest of the numbers are missing. The chassis is stamped BPJ012984. Any help welcomed.
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
Member since 21 February 2009
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Its probably got seven pins a pair of "U" shape elements,upside down & is a horrid noisy little double diode triode 6AV6 and is the dectector & first audio
A large number of the others will be 9 pin.
Marc
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Location: Elizabeth, SA
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Thanks Marc, I'll check it tomorrow. Thought it might be a 6M5. Its very tall.
Had a beer and need my wits. Hence I'll check the pins as well tomorrow. Wifes back. Got to go.
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Likely so.
6BE6 is a pentagrid (converter) 9pin likely V1
6AD8 duo diode & RF pentode 9pin V2
6BD7 duo diode & hi mu Triode 9pin V3
6M5 Power output pentode 9pin abt 3-4 watt V4
6V4 Full wave rectifier 9 pin heater type V5
Fairly common arrangement, probably full of paper caps that would be better off in the bin. I hardly ever bother turning a set on until I roughly check it & get rid of them. 99.9 of the ones I & another, bothered to test..leaked& I have replaced around a thousand in the last few years.
Marc
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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G'day Marc, glad to see you made it back. 
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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...
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Location: Elizabeth, SA
Member since 1 September 2009
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It has nine pins - looks like a pentode Could be a bit of the side of an m and a bit of 5 survived. Or is it my imagination? I'll try a replacement 6m5 when I.ve finished dumping all the greasy paper caps and the old electrolytics. Its 36 today in Elizabeth so not going to work in the heat too long. As you say do the recap before switch-on. Then the old finger test on the mains transformer. I got a set from Queensland and had to switch it off and on with ever increasing time lengths to dry out the trany. Boy did that heat up quick when I first ran it.
Thanks for the help Marc.
Martin
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Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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One hopes that one did not fire the set up with all of those old bits in situ?
Electrolytic's loose polarity & go virtually short, or short in some cases.
That can cause a lot of grief, & strain a few friendships in the transformer.
If you are going to do things like that ; At least remove the rectifier and check the mains wiring.
I normally insulation test the transformer first. If the wire is shoody I will bypass it or replace it temporarily. Sets do not leave here without their mains wiring being tested or brought up to "safe".
The "M" & "5" could be it. Shove it in the freezer for a while & see what the moisture says when you breath on it. Bare hands are not reccommended on frozen items.
Brad I note that when I login, it is reverting to Host & you then have to go to the Vintage radio bottom left, to get back in? Mozilla ..I think IE did the same.
Marc
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Location: Elizabeth, SA
Member since 1 September 2009
Member #: 540
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ASTOR Model BPJ. Valve line up was Including a 6M5. Problem solved .I also found the fault. My fault, I had unsoldered the plate wire on pin 7 while doing the recap. The wire looked attached but was down the valve base hole.
I misted up the valve with my breath and could read most of the label then as a bonus. Found a reference picture looks a lot like a 1960 set, but no schematic circuit at radiomuseum.org. It uses a 6BH5 instead of the 6AD8
Thanks for your help, Marc
Martin
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