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 Please identify a Kriesler radiogram
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 10:31:10 PM on 10 May 2017.
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It looks similar to this, but the white divider between the radio and turntable is missing, i.e. the two doors are right next to each other.

http://resurrectionradio.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kriesler2-1.jpg

Valve line-up is 6V4, 6M5, 6M5, 12AU7 (may have been 12AX7 originally), 6N8, 6AN7.

I obtained it about a year ago and found that the output transformer had been replaced by a power transformer, however the B+ was connected to one end of the winding instead of the middle. It was badly done as the sticky tape had fallen off and the wires kept flashing to the chassis. I fixed this then found that after being on for a while the 6M5 anodes started to glow a dull red. This was due to the 470K bias resistors having increased to 570K. After the usual capacitor replacements etc it took pride of place in the lounge room (too big to fit anywhere else!).

But after about 6 months it started cutting out. Yesterday I finally got around to looking at it and found a dry joint at G2 of the 6N8. Now it works well again, with good bass. It takes ages to get it apart and back together, much longer than the actual repair.

It even has a pneumatic cylindrical tube, shaped like a bicycle pump, to prevent the radio from banging when its door is open and shut.

The turntable is a Monarch, (with its original instructions) which doesn't work, but I never care about record players.

In this case I do not need a schematic, but I'd like to know what model number it is.... if anyone knows.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 10:46:38 PM on 10 May 2017.
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That was a very popular line-up for Kriesler radiograms for quite a few years, with models such as 11-64, 11-66 and 11-68, though they tended to have Garrard or BSR changers in them.

No photos, unfortunately, although there may be some pictures in period ads in Trove.

Maybe the guys at Resurrection Radio can name the model.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 11:15:15 PM on 10 May 2017.
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The Resurrection Radio picture is of a 11-54.

The one you described could be a 11-67.

Monarch (BSR) changers were stock standard in mid 50's Kriesler grams.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 11:26:08 PM on 10 May 2017.
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The Resurrection Radio picture is of a 11-54

Source?

FWIW, the Radiomuseum entry attributes a Garrard RC110 to the 11-67.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 11:38:03 PM on 10 May 2017.
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The schematic of the 11-67 seems to fit what I have.

I forgot to mention there was originally an extra "dial" lamp mounted centrally at the bottom of the cabinet, poking out from under the speaker grille. This had been smashed to bits over the years, so I simply removed it. There's no hole, it was right at the bottom, and its absence would go unnoticed unless you knew it should be there.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 11:56:10 PM on 10 May 2017.
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Kriesler shows the same schematic for 11-64, 11-66 and 11-67, dated May 1956, with the 11-67 having a single 12 inch speaker.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 12:37:20 AM on 11 May 2017.
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with the 11-67 having a single 12 inch speaker.

And that's what it has.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 12:58:49 AM on 11 May 2017.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 1:39:10 AM on 11 May 2017.
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Looks very similar to the Resurrection Radio picture. Mine doesn't have that white divider between the doors.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 11:42:13 PM on 18 May 2017.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 11:48:25 PM on 18 May 2017.
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Giveaway??? Wish I lived nearby!

Just down the road from you Pete.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 11:49:04 PM on 18 May 2017.
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Wish I lived nearby!

So do I.. it's a HMV obviously.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 6:13:30 AM on 19 May 2017.
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The Gumtree giveaway is a HMV L1-4U/ES2 or L1-4Z/ES2 (1958-62).

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/hismasters_l1_4u_l1.html

The L1 chassis has twin single ended amplifiers that are combined for single channel reproduction using a mono pick-up head. The extension speaker (ES2) was sold as an optional extra with a plug in stereo pick-up head (PH1) to adapt the unit for stereophonic reproduction. The Garrard changer is wired to accept both a mono & stereo pick-up.

This was HMV's first offering of a stereophonic capable radiogram.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 5:18:49 PM on 19 May 2017.
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Bad news! The lady put the radiogram on the street throw outs and its gone to land fill.
Hmmmmmmm,pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 9:40:09 AM on 20 May 2017.
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Better news. My skip rescue 11-77 is coming along well. Owner is now talking about replacing stained grille cloth and getting cabinet refinished (as a result of the scars incurred in the skip). No doubt he's been influenced by what these things are worth in good condition.

Did you tell the lady she just chucked something worth a grand or so?


 
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