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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 11:21:30 AM on 20 July 2016.
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Today's mystery radio is one of the more unusual that I've seen.

Valve lineup: 6J8G, ??, 6B6G, 6V6G, 80

The chassis (including the power transformer, and the goat shield on 6B6G) are all sprayed a mid-brown colour.

The names of the valves are printed onto the chassis. Someone has scratched out the name of the IF valve. The valve itself is now a 6SK7GT.

The radio works fine on MW apart from a noticeable hum. It's a bit deaf on SW though.

Now for the unusual part. The dial is actually 2 glass dials, one with the stations from some states, the other with the stations of the other states. Between the 2 dials is a big plastic affair with 8 square holes in a 2 by 4 matrix. Behind the plastic is an insert with the 8 sydney stations marked on it, one each per square hole. When the radio is tuned to that station, a globe lights up behind the insert and is visible through the hole. So, because it has Sydney stations, the insert says FC BL GB UE KY UW CH SM. Above the holes is a badge with the name "Canobolas" in fancy writing.

Then there's the bodgy part.. someone has taken this radio out of whatever cabinet it originally had, and mounted it in a large speaker box. The speaker is mounted in the bottom half, the radio on a shelf above. The speaker faces out the front (the side with speaker cloth), and the radio front faces the other way. The power cord is stored behind the speaker. The entire box is mounted upon a wooden plank with a pivot. Therefore the radio can be turned around with a finger to face in any direction.

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 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 3:49:28 PM on 20 July 2016.
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 GTC
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In the line-up 6J8G, ??, 6B6G, 6V6G, 80, the ?? is most likely 6U7 and 6SK7 is a successor to that.

The line-up is typical of 1939/40 sets including Astor, Eclipse/Croyden, Eclipse/Monarch, Eclipse/Peter Pan and National.

The dial you describe ought to be the best guide, I think, when we see the photos.

The re-housing arrangement you describe seems odd -- maybe for a mess hall type audience. Does it have a loop antenna?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 5:32:47 PM on 20 July 2016.
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The description of the dial matches a Peter Pan console I have. The pictures should verify it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 7:00:36 PM on 20 July 2016.
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GTC : the antenna is just a bit of wire. It is perfectly adequate for MW, but I had to hold the wire to get anything on SW.

One side-effect of being in a speaker box is the amount of bass it produces - much better than the usual run-of-the-mill radio.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 7:32:12 PM on 20 July 2016.
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One side-effect of being in a speaker box is the amount of bass it produces - much better than the usual run-of-the-mill radio.

That's usually the case.

The lazy Susan type mounting makes me think it was designed to rotate to face the audience, if not to tune a loop antenna.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 12:05:13 AM on 21 July 2016.
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Thanks Brad. Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 2:12:02 AM on 21 July 2016.
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It's a Peter Pan alright.

See the bottom of this page: http://www.philipstorr.id.au/radio/thirteen/collection.htm

You might be able to help Phil with this request: "would someone have a pair of dial scales I could get scanned copies of ?" His email address is on his home page.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 5:19:51 AM on 21 July 2016.
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To be more precise, a Radio Corporation made Eclipse, possibly a model EJN.

These came out as Croyden, Peter Pan & other sundry generic home branded sets.

The schematic can be found under both Croyden & Peter Pan in the AORSM volume 4.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 9:49:53 AM on 21 July 2016.
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Phil's page hasn't been updated for over 5 years. I can see his set is for Adelaide. The chassis layout is completely different to mine.

Where his has the Peter Pan badge, that's where mine says Canobolas.

What is the AORSM and how can I get it?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 10:38:29 AM on 21 July 2016.
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The AORSM is a 14 volume set of books with Australian radio circuit diagrams published between 1938 & 1956. These books turn up from time to time on ebay & HRSA swap meets. A CD copy is also available for sale from it's creator Ray Pedri.

Croyden (Eclipse) EJN & EJQ Circuit Diagram

The same circuit is used in Astor/Monarch 354 (mantel)/654 (console) CL & Peter Pan EJN.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 3:54:27 PM on 21 July 2016.
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I can see [Phil's] set is for Adelaide

That may not bother him. My guess is anything would be better than nothing.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 12:49:36 PM on 27 July 2016.
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Had a closer look at the back, it says EJN, so that confirms MonochromeTV's theory.


 
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