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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 12:32:52 AM on 23 October 2014.
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Tonight between 21:55 and 00:28 (GMT + 11) this website seemed to be suffering from an unidentified gremlin preventing it from being accessible. At around 00:25 I rebooted the server and everything started working again. Nothing to do apart from hoping the problem has gone away.

I will keep a closer eye on things for a day or two to be sure.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 8:11:59 AM on 23 October 2014.
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Thanks Brad It did die on me with internal 500 error...but our nets been screwy up here with the NBN roll out...so I thought it might have been my end (even thought the error seems more a site server error)

Cheers Mate Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 8:18:19 AM on 23 October 2014.
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If you get any HTTP error codes it is always something wrong with the server, and pretty much a combination that your connection is okay.

I have a mate that lives on the Central Coast and he got switched over earlier in the year as he runs a business from home. So far his connection is good but he is on his second modem.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 6:26:11 PM on 23 October 2014.
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Just lately I've had the net die a few times and strange slowness so even thought it was probably your site I wasn't going to totally assume it was...the ISP I use thought being via Optus aint what you'd call the best either thought a lot of the time there problems lay with optus but they cope the flack.

Over at WP forums you'll find endless posts about optus and OS connections awhile back...its getting better thought I must say....and when the dust settles I am hoping we will have a more reliable faster service even if I will be forever stuck using degrading copper by the looks of it.

I guess there are modems and there are modems but in the old days a general cause was popped caps
they used crap caps and the sooner they failed...replace with a decent made cap and they'd last a lot longer...heats alway the enemy thought and some modems just seem to make good ovens

I should add that also its picking the right cap for the job too. Some caps are fine if used with in the range they were designed to work at and not thrown into a circuit thats going to beat the life out of them..or if they survive the warranty period thats all some might worry about...its your problem after that we dont care type thing.

But whats used on NBN fibre I've no idea I just havent been overly bothered to look at any of it since we wont get fibre here..to house I mean.

These days they use solids but I "guess" to a point the same thing would apply, make it out of crap it wont last...but may last longer then a wet electro made of crap...dont know just my thoughts there.

Anyway I do hope if his bizz is of a mission critical type he has a backup modem and alternative connection..fall back setup.

My wireless dongle that I got seems to be stuffed up for some reason now too... strange. Got to get back to that one.

Anyway Thanks Brad for keeping us in the loop of what happened...


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 9:06:42 PM on 23 October 2014.
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But whats used on NBN fibre I've no idea I just havent been overly bothered to look at any of it since we wont get fibre here..to house I mean.

With the FTTN programme you can optionally upgrade to FTTH. The catch is that you have to have a big wad of notes to hand over. Personally I think that FTTN is a sheer waste of money and it will use a lot more electricity and cost NBNCo millions in terms of the backup batteries required in each street cabinet though the previous government handled the FTTH agenda as well as they handled most other things - spent lots of money doing very little - and a winding back on specification is usually the result of such incompetence.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 11:04:44 PM on 23 October 2014.
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I do not think it confined to this site, I would say that the system is headed for a major crash. The behaviour of the net in the past few weeks has been shaky. I note also that the Kevin chant site is not accessible & email has been a pain in the last few weeks, albeit I think I got away with a workaround on that one.

So the fault may not be you, just the run down third world system.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 11:55:13 PM on 23 October 2014.
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This is the error that I get when trying to access Kevin Chant's site:

"Site Not Published. The site you are looking for has not been published"

Can't recall ever seeing that message before.

I've emailed Kevin.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 8:14:32 AM on 24 October 2014.
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Consistent with what I get on that one.

There is however, always those sick people that need a life, creating Malware etc.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 8:15:32 AM on 24 October 2014.
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It's just a fancy 404-error page. I have one scripted here for wayward querystrings so one doesn't see the boring standard page when navigating to a dead link.

Web hosts often use such a page when a new account is opened so people visiting (even by accident) know a site may one day be there.

I hope his site isn't gone forever. It was a good resource with many members here recommending it to others.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 2:26:08 PM on 24 October 2014.
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Happy to report I can access Kevin Chant's site now.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 2:44:06 PM on 24 October 2014.
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Good to hear.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 11:53:37 PM on 24 October 2014.
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Yes noticed he was back up tonight (and its working as it should to me.. if you read my other post of not loading and having to DL docs to view them)

I have to Agree Brad I think it is a fat waste of money doing it the way they want to now and thats what we will be getting here if I understand it correctly...copper and BGB of some kind

I am not a Hackett fanboy but I think his Idea get a fibre cable to the house and let ISP etc and owner work out want the want to hang off it was the way to go... the infrastructure for delivery, not the details

I read a bit about what goes into the house and technical docs on boundaries etc..it all made my head spin...I pity the installers having to deal with it all

I should add that the old copper system for communications in a disaster was probably a safer bet easier to repair but well today with mobiles etc I guess a little redundant

You know it was really strange watching an episode of Dr Who were they made the background story about the post office building (cant remember its proper name) in the UK and how it was brand knew in 1964 "wars Machines" I think that story was called and fast forward 2014 odd and here they are cutting up those big horn ant's into small chunks so they can take them down the lift...all because everythings done by the net these days

How times change & things evolve in an unexpected way

Anyway fatter pipelines up here will be good even if I cant use light to send and receive by from the house...


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 11:38:57 AM on 25 October 2014.
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It seems that whatever is causing the HTTP 500 error is still occurring. Best Incan do at the moment is keep and eye on the server logs and see if they show what is going wrong.

Failing that I will revert to a previous version of the site's software and see if that stabilises things. If that doesn't work I will have to start a new account on the server - a lengthy task.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 12:50:07 PM on 25 October 2014.
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"a lengthy task."
Hoping you dont have to start a new account Brad

I can hope the logs nail the problem for you...me absolutely no idea on servers, but just wondering if a reboot got it going again ? or did you have to stuff around to get it back up

Thank you for the prompt action anyway mate Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 1:41:08 PM on 25 October 2014.
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I can reboot the server remotely - no problem with that. The thing is, every other website plus mail and DNS services are working normally. It is only the main Vintage Radio & Television site that is going into this weird mode.

Having the site working correctly is the first priority and I'll probably be watching things and trying to identify and fix the problem for the rest of the day. That's just how it is when one owns a web presence. Perplexed

I should also thank those who sent me an e-mail earlier today and last night - there was a few enquiries. This is much appreciated.

Last night the site was out for about ten hours and just a few minutes ago I restarted the server again after the site was out for about 20 minutes. I will provide progress reports in this thread.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
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