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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 10:24:05 PM on 1 July 2010.
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I have started this thread as an easy way to find reference for ARTS&P dating

The origin was

who reference it to
How Old is Your Radio, H.R.S.A. Newsletter, October 1987, P20


1934 White, serial number prefixed by the letter A
1935-1936 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter B
1936 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter C
1937 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter D
1938 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter E
1939-1940 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter F
1940-1941 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter G
1942-1946 Pale blue, serial number prefixed by the letter H
1946-1952 Dark Green with red letters, serial number prefixed by the letter T
1952-1955 Orange with dark green letters, serial number prefixed by the letter T
1955-1960s Small pale blue, with dark blue letters, no prefix to the serial number.

The 1934 label was a plastic card riveted on. The rest are transfers.

In light of posts below:
1935 B can also be a pale blue plastic card riveted on.
1940/1941 G can also be orange

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I've got the plastic label in pale blue riveted on my mystery uprights chassis. It's a No.4 label, serial no.B5290.
The radio appears to be a little earlier than 1935 though, so I wonder if older models that were getting licenced got a paper label, while brand newies got the water slide transfer, or if they simple changed from one to the other in the first couple months of 1935?
I guess when you think about it, it would have been near impossible to issue the new tranfers to every licencing agent Australia wide by the 1/1/35. More than likely they had begun printing the plastic B series labels sometime in 34, before they decided to trade in the drill and rivoter for a bowl of water, leaving them with "old stock" to ge rid of.

 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 22:13:57 on 1 August 2010.
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You could be right. The labels may have been bought and paid for before attachment, and a stock would have been needed since radios could not be sold without their label.

My comment about the white plastic label was not in the referenced material. So a line is between it and the rest of the post. It is my recollection from a source I don't remember but probably EA, Silicon Chip or HRSA Radio Waves.
I've always assumed since the HRSA article said the '35 label was light blue, that it was a transfer.
Hopefully someone will know if both exist. Unfortunately I don't have a '35 radio.

(addition: have since noticed that Brad shows the white plastic label in Tutorials - Knowing how to date old radios)


an example of a riveted B label

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The B labels in 1935 were light blue and were made of cellulose at first but I think they managed to change over to transfers (like the old motor rego labels) before 1936. I am sure I've seen both types in B but I only have a radio with the cellulose label that rivets on as far as I've been able to see.

A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 10:33:36 on 2 August 2010.
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Here is a different take on the labels. No mention is made of plastic labels in '35.
It also mentions orange as well as blue in 40/41. So as with many other things in vintage radio, there can be exceptions to the rule.



These stickers were attached to the back of Australian radios, commencing in 1934 with the code letter 'A', and continuing with a new letter each year until the letter 'H' in 1941/2. After that they continued without the code letters.

The first codes to be used were printed on white celluloid plastic with the letter A code on them. This letter code represented 1934.

Subsequent licences consisted of a transfer on the metal chassis.

Each year following a new code was introduced. However some yearly codes did overlap into the next year (as was the case 1937/ 1938 and 1940/41)

1935 was blue label code B
1936 was blue label code C
1937 was blue label code D
1938 was blue label code E
1939 was blue label code F
1940/41 was both blue and orange label code G.
1941/42 EXTREMELY RARE CODE OF letter H. Very few sets exist with this code.


I haven't seen an explanation of the No in the top left corner No4, No5, No6 etc. I've assumed that if No 1 runs out of numbers at the bottom right following the letter then proceed to No 2 & so on - ie series 1, 2, 3 etc in the one year.
Does anyone know?

An example of H posted recently:

Sticker sequence 6 also spelled out ie SIX

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