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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 8:44:37 PM on 28 June 2021.
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Hi all I have an old XP computer with the patch for viewing AORSM CD I can no longer use it on WiFi. I think this is because the WiFi password has 10 characters and I think this computer only excepts 8 characters. I maybe talking rubbish I no nothing about computers, but I am good at talking rubbish. It is not convenient to connect it with an Ethernet cable. Is there a way to overcome this simply keeping in mind I am not a computer person.
Regards Jim


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 10:46:01 PM on 28 June 2021.
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Change the WIFI password to 8 characters. Smile


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 10:02:07 AM on 29 June 2021.
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I don't use Wifi at all, it's completely disabled on purpose.

All my machines are on Ethernet, except for one in another room. It has a short ethernet cable to a device that plugs into the powerpoint. Another similar device at this end allows communication via the house wiring. Works pretty well.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 10:33:55 AM on 29 June 2021.
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I wouldn't think the password length is the issue. Eight is just the minimum amount of characters you can have.
Likely it's to do with your wifi routers encryption which isn't compatible with your older computer.
Your old PC probably is only compatible with WEP/WPA while new routers and computers use WPA2.
there maybe a button to press that temporarily allows WPA based computers to connect to the router. This will be on the router itself but now all routers have one. You could change the settings on the router to use only WPA encryption but it's not recommended.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 11:08:52 AM on 29 June 2021.
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Thank you all for your comments. I think Robbert's answer maybe the most suitable.
Robbert do you have some information on this? It sounds good.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 11:39:23 AM on 29 June 2021.
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Not having a minimal support for XP is a pain & there are a lot of units around still running it. The engine I am running with XP is around Circa 2000. It is only capable of running a Bluetooth dongle.

I have actually found it best to load the disk to the hard drive with the update. Whilst it involves a couple of extra steps to view it, that also allows it to run on Win 10, with that Lin AORSM update.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 3:11:18 PM on 29 June 2021.
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OK, does the XP computer have an RJ45 socket on it? The 8 pin one, same as the ones on your internet box.

If so, just link them together with a network patch cable. If XP is already set up to "Obtain an IP address automatically" it should just work.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 4:56:13 PM on 29 June 2021.
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Thanks again for your comments.
Ian not sure what you mean it has an Ethernet socket and a similar socket with a telephone type socket. Do you mean link these?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 5:18:38 PM on 29 June 2021.
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As a start please note that Windows XP has a "feature" in that it only displays 8 asterisks although it accepts longer network keys, it simply does not echo them to the screen, this was done, some say, to disguise the length of the network key to frustrate password guessing attacks. It also has another security "feature" in that it will not let you see what you typed (frustration x 2)

Another possible cause is that your system only supports WEP encryption which from (rusty) old memory has a 10 character limit. This should not be a problem if your wireless access point is configured to support it, in which case it can be set up to accept a key from the access point and you need type nothing.

I can say that XP does support long network keys when using WPA2-PSK encryption which is certainly available with service pack 3 and most likely service pack 2. (service packs refer to operating system updates provided by Microsoft).

The first thing I would do is simply keep typing the network key in even though you are not seeing the additional characters being echoed on the screen and give it a try.

If that fails, check what operating system we are dealing with by the following

Click on start
Click on my computer
click on view System Information
under the heading "system" take note of
Version 2002 (or whatever)
Service Pack 3 (or whatever)

Another bit of useful diagnostic information can be had, on the right hand side of the task bar at the bottom of the screen there should be a little computer symbol with some small ))) radiating from it. It displays WiFi information. if you click on it, and then click on display wireless networks it should list all networks within reach.

Underneath each (and the only one we are interested in is yours) should be words along the lines of "Security protected network (WPA2)"
This tells us what the network is expecting and what your computer will have to deliver - in that case WPA2-PSK

Let's know how you get on.

Joe


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 6:06:57 PM on 29 June 2021.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 6:34:51 PM on 29 June 2021.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 6:40:28 PM on 29 June 2021.
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Thank you for all your help I had continued to put the full characters in and it did not work.
I am thinking it is not worth the effort I am trying to get the CD to work on a Windows 7 computer using the Linux software outlined in HRSA magazine. The xp computer is showing its age like me.
Regards Jim


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 8:17:51 PM on 29 June 2021.
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OK thank you all for your very useful suggestions.
I am now back in business using a Windows 7 laptop with the Linux software for AROSM as outlined in radio waves.
It works brilliantly. This laptop works well with the WiFi as well. So a very successful outcome.
Regards Jim.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 10:32:02 PM on 29 June 2021.
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Basically, if you make a folder AORSM in the main root directory XP, 10, the step is to go to "settings" tell it where it is & then it should run.

So load CD onto HDD along with update

Click on "LinAORSM" radio button; View; Settings; & then indicate where it is.

On my XP computer it may get confused as there are two CD drives

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 9:01:12 AM on 30 June 2021.
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Thank you Marc


 
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