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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 4:24:46 PM on 2 January 2020.
Vintage Pete's avatar
 Location: Albury, NSW
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I've been driving back and forth from Sydney to Albury moving house. I've done 4 trips in the past week ,but the trip today from Albury to Sydney was the worst for fires and smoke ,it's so thick in places it's hard to see the road and traffic, basically there is smoke like fog all the way , 600klm of it.
I met one lady from down south on the road who had 3 little ones and had been evacuated.
On the road you see many families all loaded up with junk head away from the fire areas.
I'm heading back to Albury with a other load I. The morning.
Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 9:34:44 PM on 2 January 2020.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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A word of caution from a local. The next few days are going to be horrid. The Corryong (town surrounded) fire is expanding. It is likely that if the southerly prevails that is the way the smoke will go. However, we are expecting stronger winds and temps toward 40's. Sat & Sunday

So things could get very nasty by around 11:00 & cars do not like being in heat like that towing. I have a pic of a "pyro cumulus" cloud south of Mt Buffalo, on my Facebook page.

in contrast to JFX saying "the fruits of victory may be ashes in our mouths". We through mismanagement have the fruits of our failures as ashes in our mouths"

https://www.ventusky.com/


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 5:40:38 AM on 3 January 2020.
Vintage Pete's avatar
 Location: Albury, NSW
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Thanks Marcc,
Yes I think your right , it's so dry out there too that I think we are only seeing the beginning of the fires. Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 8:46:19 AM on 3 January 2020.
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 Location: NSW
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"we are only seeing the beginning of the fires"

Just looking at the Sydney / Central Coast / Wollongong area, there is still about 40% of the bush within 150k radius around Sydney to burn (see fires-near-me on the rfs website). A lot of this is in rough country and would be difficult to fight. And we still have probably the worst two months of summer to go in terms of temperature. So the Sydney area might be in for another two months of smoke, and at worst, ash and embers.

Then there is all the rest of the east coast.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 9:29:34 AM on 3 January 2020.
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 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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"State of emergency" declared here Smoke is on a SE air stream blowing the smoke here. Damaged lungs are not enjoying it: Worse to come.

Smoke
Smoke
Smoke


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 11:57:03 PM on 3 January 2020.
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 Location: Sydney, NSW
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I'm at Hill Top which is completely surrounded by the Green Wattle Creek fire, and a dangerous day tomorrow. However there's been enough backburning to make me feel quite safe. Some of the villages to the north have been ravaged (Balmoral, Bargo), but it's like a little oasis here - no damage at all.

Well, not yet.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 2:01:20 PM on 6 January 2020.
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 Location: Oradell, US
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FWIW, the fires in Australia has been reported on almost every night on the nationwide news programs (on ABC, NBC, and CBS) on TV in the USA.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 4:42:52 PM on 6 January 2020.
Brad's avatar
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There's another round of hot weather on way but it is mild at the moment by comparison. Rain is also falling in parts but it's only enough to change the colour of the smoke, not wipe the fires out entirely.

People are crapping on about climate change cooking Australia and the media all over the world are painting bleak pictures but at the end of the day Australia has been a hot, dry continent for millions of years and it's not going to change. What can change is that we manage the land a bit better and whilst this will never prevent bushfire it can certainly help lessen the effects and spread of fire.

When one looks at the coal we no longer burn it completely wipes out the climate myth. We no longer run coal-fired boilers in factories, no longer run steam trains, aside from a handful of excursion trains run by museums, no longer run coal and coke-fired furnaces in our homes and all the old, inefficient coal-fired power stations that were once commonplace in towns and suburbs of capital cities no longer exist except as museums.

We also no longer pump CFCs into the atmosphere, burn super petrol or set alight our backyard incinerators anymore.

Australia has its fair share of left-wing media which does its bit to spread the climate falsehoods and there is a fair deal of politicking going on as well which just goes to distract those who are trying to help people, save lives and stop the fires. It's all designed to create the hysteria required to sell papers.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 4:43:11 PM on 6 January 2020.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Now all we need are some socks to put in Greta's mouth & have some truth about the cause & climate change and our PM are not it.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 4:47:35 PM on 6 January 2020.
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Greta - ohhhh that name again! I wish her parents would smack her arse and send her back to school where she belongs.

Three fires burned in Sydney in the last couple of days. Fortunately the RFS and NSWFR were onto them licketty split. The Hammondville fire that closed the M5 could have spread into the Royal National Park quite easily. All three fires were deliberately lit, no doubt and the police are on the hunt for those responsible.

Marc, I'll post your photos in the next hour or so. I apologise for the delay, I spent the weekend at work.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 7:49:43 PM on 6 January 2020.
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 Location: Sydney, NSW
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This climate change thing is the newest religion (belief of things that are unproven or cannot be proved). Now perhaps the activities of humans may have had an affect to some degree, or perhaps it's a natural thing. There's no way to be totally sure.

What is certain, however, is that no matter what we do in this country, it will not lessen what has happened, or what will happen. The greenies can say and and do whatever they like, it will never get better. It's time for them to get over it, and instead adapt.

I agree that the needs of the countryside have never been fully understood or managed correctly. It's time to at least consider the ancient practices of the aboriginals.

I've already made my opinions clear of what should be done with firebugs. It's time a magistrate had the guts to impose the correct punishment.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 8:59:32 PM on 6 January 2020.
Brad's avatar
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Photos uploaded to Post 5.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 9:09:32 PM on 7 January 2020.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Brad,

Thanks; Did I send you the colour monochrome of my house Sunday morning?

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 11:37:20 PM on 7 January 2020.
Brad's avatar
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Yes. You were a bit vague about which thread you wanted the other two photos in though. If you want them here, it can be done.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 8:44:50 PM on 8 January 2020.
Marcc's avatar
 Location: Wangaratta, VIC
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Brad,

Thanks. They would perhaps be best in this one. There are three others in replies on my Facebook page and they are there as well.
The three show the amount of crap on the road in front of my place and its the same in the local forest. This is why we have hot destructive fires. Clearly if consensus is otherwise, the others will only appear on Facebook rather than clutter your site.

Marc

House


 
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