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 I bought a rare Radiogram with a interesting History today.
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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 9:28:38 PM on 13 November 2019.
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 Location: Cromer, NSW
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Hi All,
I bought a very interesting Radiogram today with a interesting history so I thought I would tell you all about it.
It's 1959 60 Telefunken Sonata FM valve radiogram with a Telefunken turntable.
Very interesting as we just don't get flash Radiograms of this nature in Oz from 1959 .
But apart from being rare it has a past .
The older lady I bought it off today was originally from India and it belonged to her husband who passed away recently coming home on a flight from London and was a older man . when he was a little boy his father was in Saigon with the peace forces and he bought the Radiogram for his son who was 14 and lived in India , so the Telefunken Sonata was shipped To deli for a present to the little boy.
Years later he grew up and moved to Australia with his wife and they have been married for 45 years and his plan was to restore it in his old age ,but unfortunately he passed away and now his wife is clearing out the house.
Well I met the lovely lady and she told me the story and I told her my passion for old things and restorations and so I bought it and it's now in my kitchen.
It needs restoring ,but what a rare item it is !
Chassis looks untouched and original and I can see the speaker cone has turned to dust.
The cabinet needs some work ,but everything is there including the paper work.

Pete

I think it's a 5083 1959 or 60 Telefunken Sonata Radiogram.

Telefunken Sonata Console Radio


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 11:29:36 PM on 13 November 2019.
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 GTC
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Great story. We don't often get to know the provenance of such things.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 1:39:26 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 Location: Cromer, NSW
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Photo sent in to Brad, thanks Brad.
It looks better in the photos than in real life,
Bit like those dating sites!

On the quick glance I have had I noted that the speaker is rotten and it has one veneer on a curve lifting due to delamination , which can be a dog to fix depending how well the delamination takes to the binding of the glue which decides if the top needs new veneer or the old old veneer can be saved.

Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 7:40:21 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 GTC
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which can be a dog to fix

I'm sure you'll bring it back to new, Pete.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 8:11:37 PM on 14 November 2019.
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Photo uploaded.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 8:32:14 PM on 14 November 2019.
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Thank you Brad for the fast photo upload,
Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 8:35:50 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 Location: Cromer, NSW
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Thanks G , I like things with a bit of history about then when possible. Plus I like European stuff too. So see how we go and see what it needs , may have a possibly if the coils check out well and the delamination repair gives a good flat surface.
Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 9:04:34 PM on 14 November 2019.
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Pretty sure there should be a matching speaker with that, as it IS stereo.

Anybody ever seen one?

Maybe you could build a replica, Pete....!


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 9:50:15 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 Location: Cromer, NSW
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 Member #: 1919
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Hi Ian , you can buy them in the states , I've seen them on eBay .
The chassis is so dirty Ian . It's original but it must be the dirtiest chassis I have ever seen.
Tweeters are good ,but the main speaker is cactus. I can source one for 40 bucks though.
But looking at the chassis I think it would be too big a job going off the dirt in there , half of India and Saigon is in there!
Interesting item all the same though.
I'm pretty sure it's a 5083 wk chassis.
Pete


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 9:55:20 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 GTC
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I think it's a 5083

The 5083 has 3 speakers, the 2082 has 2 speakers onboard, and the onboard speakers do appear to be for one channel only. Otherwise the models appear to be very much the same. Radiomuseum has both schematics for download -- and they are split over two pages each.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 10:27:46 PM on 14 November 2019.
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 Location: Cromer, NSW
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Hi G ,
This unit has 3 speakers, 2 , 5 inch tweeters and they are 10 ohm, plus it has one large speaker about 9 inches long and I don't know the ohms of that one just yet.... but I will down load a schematic and have a read .

Pete


 
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