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 Return to top of page · Post #: 1 · Written at 8:54:45 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I have been unable to login to V-R using Firefox 52.0, but am able to do so using Chrome.

Brad, I have emailed you more details.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 2 · Written at 9:55:59 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I'm using Firefox 52.0 (32-bit), however I think the 64-bit version is more strict.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 3 · Written at 9:59:28 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I'm using Firefox 52.0 (32-bit)

So am I, and it's flagging all sorts of stuff that I'm not in the least fussed about. It's become a nanny browser.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 4 · Written at 10:07:06 PM on 16 March 2017.
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Strange, mine doesn't complain at all. See if there's some setting to adjust (I can't think of one offhand).


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 5 · Written at 10:09:11 PM on 16 March 2017.
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Are you using the ESR version?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 6 · Written at 10:14:53 PM on 16 March 2017.
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No, just the normal one that came via automatic update.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 7 · Written at 10:20:12 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I have manual update option enabled. I updated to 52.0 and then I kept getting an 'Update to ESR now' pop-up.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 8 · Written at 10:26:05 PM on 16 March 2017.
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In the changelog, there's 2 things that might affect you.

1. Added user warnings for non-secure HTTP pages with logins. Firefox now displays a “This connection is not secure” message when users click into the username and password fields on pages that don’t use HTTPS.

(this site uses HTTPS so make sure it says that in the address bar)

2. Migrated Firefox users on Windows XP and Windows Vista operating systems to the extended support release (ESR) version of Firefox.

(if you're using one of these operating systems perhaps it's time to consider windows 7 or 10 - or use another browser).


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 9 · Written at 10:32:02 PM on 16 March 2017.
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Yes, I plan to build a Win 7 box before Easter when I get the chance. That will be my Internet box.

QUOTE: Firefox 52.0 ESR is based on 52.0 Release but will allow Plugins like 51.0 did. It will also be the only option for WinXP/Vista users to get security updates for Firefox as 53.0 and later Releases drops support for WinXP/Vista.

I have to retain my XP-Pro box because I have numerous legacy 32 bit apps that don't have 64 bit equivalents and I don't want to run Win 7 in 32 bit mode.

Whatever the hell FF developers changed is screwing up login authentication, but only on this site.

Interestingly, Chrome is showing V-R as being https disabled.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 10 · Written at 10:38:51 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I'm running Win7 in 32-bit mode, it runs perfectly fine. However you'll probably find that certain programs for XP will not run on Win7.

Now, as for https on VR, yes firefox reports the site is not fully secured. It shows the lock with a yellow triangle, as explained on this page.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 11 · Written at 10:43:40 PM on 16 March 2017.
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I want to move to 64 bit exclusively for day to day stuff. The 32 bit box will be booted up only when I need to use the old apps.

(I have a Windows 3 box and a Win 95 box that are both still usable.)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 12 · Written at 10:54:56 PM on 16 March 2017.
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That's fair enough. I have 64 bit computers here as well, but I normally use this 32-bit for internet.

I still do possess a working win98se, and 2 '386 computers. Then there's the NT 4.0, Win2000 Pro, and XP boxes laying in a pile...


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 13 · Written at 10:59:20 PM on 16 March 2017.
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Meanwhile, I'll see if I can revert to the prior non-ESR version of FF, unless Brad can suss out why I can't login with that version.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 14 · Written at 12:15:05 AM on 17 March 2017.
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On the login fail at around 23:42 Hrs Thursday 16th, I swapped from Firefox to IE and this did not solve the issue. I did reboot prior to this as Firefox and IE did not want to talk to Telstra. That sorted out one issue. The computer had been running along time, & that has been a common problem with most MS OS for decades.

In respect of FF I have had an incident where it would not display the submit button on one site: IE did. I tried to lodge an online software registration, it hung on the first page: IE no issues, it worked? It will not talk to Microsoft as it thinks there is an issue with the certificate. Refreshing it I don't see, achieved anything.

On a completely separate computer & system, at the Mens Shed (8Km away) I went to lodge an online Insurance paper (Sec.) lo and behold, it hung on the first page? Yes! Firefox again; so that lot also ended up going via IE.

So I wonder if the Forum issue is separate? One thing is however, fast becoming apparent, from my experience and a couple of other reports, there seems to be serious issues being caused with the current FF and its settings

What I see on their, to me, user unfriendly site, is an organisation who's contact information is such that they give me the impression of not wanting to be contacted easily. Some of us still have a life & don't need to share it with the world, & steer away from Facebook etc. which looks like the only contact option.

If you have lots of similar problems with FF, increase the free space on your computer: Remove it.

I to have a 17 year old engine, with XP for a 360 column printer and other software. The Laptop I was given is running Vista. I note since the XP one did a recent update the drivers on a scanner I have, ceased operation.

Marc


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 15 · Written at 12:49:36 AM on 17 March 2017.
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In my case, I can browse the site as a guest, but login attempts go nowhere. Would be interesting to know what, if anything, Brad sees in his site access log.

The reason I don't use Chrome as my usual browser is that I'm leery of anything that Google makes and does. Their company motto "Do the right thing" is one of the great corporate ironies.

FF (Mozilla) is an open system project. Its programmers work voluntarily and interdependently, albeit in a community of sorts. Consequently, support is minimal and programming quality is variable. Tis said that a camel is a horse deigned by a committee, and sometimes FF strikes me as a camel.


 
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