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 Return to top of page · Post #: 16 · Written at 9:11:56 PM on 4 November 2014.
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Makes me wonder if they were handing off the seconds there GTC not the club but CBS. just a thought mate....
Anyway just on my comment it was one of the ideas at the time to me that made sense but I didnt look too hard at it

CD's I got nothing against and quite like the punch a number to get to a track type thing along with the skipping feature etc.. thought there were some " *linear drive turntables" that tried to do that ,skip tracks and you know the funny thing is with Digital there was even a I think vinyl Video system in the states...

Id have to look it up but I think EA had articles on the different Video disc systems in the States in the Early 80's

So even today you could I suppose make a hybrid Vinyl system, Digital (control) Analogue (audio)
maybe even improve on the RIAA equalization Curve but then I think you start to open a digital can of worms with the analogue purists

Trouble is technology tends to reinvent the delivery systems I guess and I think you do need a standard world wide or it just wont be economically very viable

look at whats been, reel to reel, cassettes, El cassettes, 8 Track players, 5 video tapes systems or so 3~5 Video Disc systems and a lot of the time its down to who licence the best to get the tech out there and its not necessarily the best system technically that wins..

Like in the old days with Records were each company had there own equalization curves to over come the limitations of record technology.
Till they standardised it across the board you had a more complicated expensive player to cater to different companies EQ settings. (I believe that was the case)

Leaving Digital and Analog arguments aside, The net is probably the best cheapest Universal (and probably greenest) system we have but sadly the *greed mongers have been stuffing that up at every turn.

Looking at the world thought and seeing town houses go up left right and centre, space on this planet will be come a premium so I guess in the future thats were all our AV will be in a cloud on the net

(*greed mongers, but lets leave that there really as its another can of worms really)

*linear drive ( tracking)... if thats what they were called, memory fails me there)

Cheers GTC Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 17 · Written at 9:16:40 PM on 4 November 2014.
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I think vinyl Video system in the states...

I'd say you are thinking of Pioneer's LaserDisc system - they looked a bit like CDs and DVDs but they were the same size as an LP. This system was a bit like the ancient video tape system V2000 by Philips. Available here for a time but just never took off. In Australia, both of the above took a distant equal 3rd to the Betamax-VHS war.


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 Return to top of page · Post #: 18 · Written at 9:23:32 PM on 4 November 2014.
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look at whats been, reel to reel, cassettes, El cassettes, 8 Track players, 5 video tapes systems or so 3~5 Video Disc systems and a lot of the time its down to who licence the best to get the tech out there and its not necessarily the best system technically that wins..

True, but the beauty of the main analogue recording media of vinyl and celluloid is that they don't require sophisticated and quickly superseded technology to hear and view them and thus they are enduring and future proof as long as the media is preserved. All you need is a needle and a wheel for vinyl and a lamp and magnifying glass for film.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 19 · Written at 9:41:38 PM on 4 November 2014.
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Actually there was a laser system in the 70's I think from memory I know the system you mean thought

thought I am not sure if it wasn't a predecessor to the system you mentioned or might have been done by Phillips?

Dont hold me to this statement thought it was all a long time ago

This was Vinyl from memory and I think it used capacitive pits or something ...The States had 3 Different competing Video Disc systems in the Early/mid 80's from memory, I think there was actually another 2 floating around but they got killed off

The Pioneer's LaserDisc system was probably the more popular thought

Yes I remember the video player you speak of I seen them in Gracies at Broadway (and drooled at the time Smile ) Squarish cassette if memory serves me

there was another system that never seem the light of Day here I dont think, it was German from memory and you actually like a cassette could flip it over to play the other side..don't know how popular that one become but Beta was technically the better system yet JVC practically gave away the licence for VHS so it become the standard...well so the story goes anyway.

Anyway I'll see if I can varify that it actually was a vinyl system..unfortunately all my EA's are all stashed in boxes so no idea were those issues would be

but maybe a net search may find some info on it

Cheers Brad Smile


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 20 · Written at 10:25:18 PM on 4 November 2014.
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http://www.cnet.com/news/rcas-video-lp-format-doomed-from-the-start/.

Think I stuffed up on the capacitive bit Brad, probably another system but here is the one by RCA I think that might have been it that I remember

GTC that is absolutely true! its simplicity in its self, agree and I hadn't thought about it in that light but yeah any other including the Net requires a complex delivery system.
(and probably why they stuck a record on Voyager I think it was.)

Recording can and was done directly to disc too and you could reproduce the Vinyl from those with a few intermediate steps....I still have the "Crossfire Direct to disc" album here somewhere
but in the old days that how a lot of the recoding was done...

Who said 78's are dead Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhnQEogFI4k.

RCA recording and making a record (78)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ5PQSaDYgU.

All good stuff and you raise a good point GTC about stuff we have on video cameras of various formats etc

You best transfer them now or you may be stuffed to get them off later, if you can't get your camera or player fixed thought sure someone will probably be able to do it for a price

Anyway night all and thanks guys good conversation & thoughts there


 
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