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 Return to top of page · Post #: 16 · Written at 8:05:18 PM on 1 August 2021.
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Standard procedure for the incompetent. If it was not for the public service & nepotism most of them would not get a job in the real word.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 17 · Written at 9:05:06 PM on 1 August 2021.
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Dear Mr *******

The Minister has asked me to thank you for your letter. The matter you raise is under active consideration. This department expects a comprehensive resolution in the fullness of time.

Yours sincerely,

H Appleby
Permanent Secretary


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 18 · Written at 12:27:00 AM on 2 August 2021.
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In my case, the "fullness of time" will be about 5 billion years, which is when the sun is due to run out of hydrogen. By that stage, I do hope that our governments have worked out how to communicate with each other.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 19 · Written at 3:52:47 PM on 2 August 2021.
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Yes, the "fullness of time" is generally an excuse to do nothing - as if they needed an excuse, since they do nothing anyway.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 20 · Written at 11:46:41 PM on 2 August 2021.
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SMH 9.35pm today:

QUOTE: A fully vaccinated staff member at Sydney’s Westmead Hospital who worked for three days while infectious last week has tested positive to COVID-19.


Is it any wonder people are questioning vaccination? Where's the explanation for that?


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 21 · Written at 2:56:38 AM on 3 August 2021.
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I've always thought that vaccines don't kill off viruses they just stop people getting sick or killed by them.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 22 · Written at 7:39:52 AM on 3 August 2021.
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Yeah, A small percentage of people can be a CARRIER of a bug and not be bothered by it, vaccinated or not.

GTC, you vaccinate everybody then only a few people will have any reaction, problem solved.
The bug only rips through morons that refuse to get vaccinated, just look down south in Sydney.

And yes, I have had my AZ shots, and yes, I have a family member at Westmead hospital doing shifts in the covid ward.

Fred.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 23 · Written at 8:58:55 AM on 3 August 2021.
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As a kid of five or so I went into hospital with my sister to have our tonsils attended to surgically (don't do that these days). I can remember kids in wheel chairs waiting treatment for the aftereffects of polio. This was the early fifties. So was very well aware of the benefit of the Salk polio vaccine when it came out some years later; and didn't hesitate for Covid 19 vaccine.

No interview with a doctor beforehand - a line-up of kids at school jabbed as fast as they could go. I suppose parents would have been briefed beforehand though.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 24 · Written at 10:41:33 AM on 3 August 2021.
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Is it any wonder people are questioning vaccination? Where's the explanation for that?

I don't know about other viruses, but this one spreads around, whether you are vaccinated or not. It cannot be stopped.

However, if you're vaccinated you yourself won't (or shouldn't) get sick, but you can happily spread it around.

The idea is that once everyone is vaccinated the virus won't kill anyone and can thus be ignored.

The only people that die will be the anti-vaxxers - and I think that's a good thing - less morons in the world.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 25 · Written at 12:18:05 PM on 3 August 2021.
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All kids were vaccinated for polio, the same way as they are today for whooping cough, etc. My last polio dose, in early high school, was the Sabin vaccine given orally.

My point with COVID is that we have hospital staff vaccinated and spreading it around. That is not a good look.

(I have been vaccinated.)


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 26 · Written at 12:24:55 PM on 3 August 2021.
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I remember the polio vaccine but I got the orange syrup on the little white spoon, and yes, we did get it at school.

As I work in the healthcare game I have to be vaccinated against pretty much everything as a condition of employment. I am a diabetic so needles aren't an issue. The exception is for coronavirus - not sure why but it is not yet mandatory in hospitals. I agree that it should be mandatory.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 27 · Written at 1:16:28 PM on 3 August 2021.
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A story on the phone
"Got a COVID vaccine? Here's how it changes the risk of infection for you"

-UK data shows both AZ and Pfizer stop about 80% of infections
-if you get infected after being vaccinated you are half as likely to pass it on to your household
- Pf 97% effective at keeping infected people out of hospital

Gives a rundown of what to expect and why.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 28 · Written at 3:23:38 PM on 3 August 2021.
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I have had both AZ jabs and the first one gave me a splitting headache, raised temperature and very sore legs and well and truly off my food and it was only for about 36 hours. NO other symptoms at all.

Next jab I grumbled to the Doc giving it me about the side effects and he said "Great that means you have had a vigorous reaction which equates to a good defence" hmmm after the second jab similar symptoms but very minor.

Like others who have had the AZ I am still here aged 81 !! The risk of serious issues from AZ is far less than the risk of DVT from flying on an aircraft so what is the problem.

Have 2 nieces whom are both air hostesses and NEITHER will get vaccinated and are regularly working on the Fly In /Fly Out kites..my mind boggles as BOTH use the Contraceptive Pill which supposedly carries a higher risk. Go figure that train of thought!!

I cannot even get into the My Gov site now to even check my records so could be interesting trying to get hold of a Vaccination record for me.

Even booking in via the HotDoc website was a shambles so I fronted the reception at the Medical Centre and did it in person..they grumbled about having to do it but did so OK.


 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 29 · Written at 3:40:30 PM on 3 August 2021.
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I had some back pain after my second jab but no noticeable symptoms after the first. It was minor and went away after a day or so.


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A valve a day keeps the transistor away...

 
 Return to top of page · Post #: 30 · Written at 4:04:14 PM on 3 August 2021.
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One of the things to consider and irks me, as a senior cit, is that they are poo pooing and laying low, as is to be expected from our bureaucrats if some thing works (can't have that), criticising and trolling anyone that has an alternative view to theirs even when theirs has no substance. Many have no idea of distance.

There are adjuncts being used in other countries, applied and their success duly noted but wilfully ignored & suppressed, as you do not make money out of expired patents. It is pertinent to note that in persecuting they deliberately hide the fact that unlike the alternatives theirs is still new & untested medicine and long term it may turn out to be another Thalidomide.

Wearing my persecuted farmers hat, I see the same people making the same mistakes and doing things that fly in the face of effective biosecurity methods proven over millennia. By not using tried & effective control supported by adjuncts, that will assist in reducing the spread, they are never going to stop it.

Mystery infections are from where, I am, tells me that there is a lot of deadly quackery going on and those delivering our daily episode of the new "Days of Our Lives", have not come to grips with truth nor how its spreading.

It is really getting beyond a joke. Of course we have not mentioned that it is the unhealthy disease ridden city's that have it and yet the rural sector gets punished for not having it.

Build Rabbit proof fences around the cities & clean them up.


 
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